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    Customs stole my clomid

    I currently have tamox wich i planned to use together with my clomid as pct, how awful is it to do a Tamox only pct?
    Seeing as tamox and clomid works kinda in the same way, but they block different estrogen receptors?

    Would be something like:
    Tamox
    40/40/20/20

    I'm running a test e cycle 400mg(pin e 3,5d) a week for 8 weeks.

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    I don't like test E for only 8 weeks.

    Depending on where you are, you could just order some more from AR-R .

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    why not 8 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    I don't like test E for only 8 weeks.

    Depending on where you are, you could just order some more from AR-R.
    That's where i ordered from^^

    It's my first ever cycle so i figured a short and mild cycle would be the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgers View Post
    That's where i ordered from^^

    It's my first ever cycle so i figured a short and mild cycle would be the way to go.
    well, where are you in the cycle now?

    You can try ordering more, and if not you can recover fine with nolva only. Don't be afraid to extend your PCT beyond the standard 4 weeks either.

    I don't care for long esters for 8 weeks, since the test is really peaking at weeks 4-5, giving you only a few weeks for growth.

    I'd rather run a long ester for 10-12 weeks, and use short esters for short cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    well, where are you in the cycle now?

    You can try ordering more, and if not you can recover fine with nolva only. Don't be afraid to extend your PCT beyond the standard 4 weeks either.

    I don't care for long esters for 8 weeks, since the test is really peaking at weeks 4-5, giving you only a few weeks for growth.

    I'd rather run a long ester for 10-12 weeks, and use short esters for short cycles.
    agree... long ester for only 8weeks is not worth it. as for the nolva only pct. thats all i use. Stopped using clomid for pct a few cycles ago and never looked back.

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    dosent the test level peak only like 2-3 days after injection and then tapper off over a week?

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    No...re-reread what D7M wrote, as it is correct. You might want to try checking out the steroid profiles section as well to learn more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    well, where are you in the cycle now?

    You can try ordering more, and if not you can recover fine with nolva only. Don't be afraid to extend your PCT beyond the standard 4 weeks either.

    I don't care for long esters for 8 weeks, since the test is really peaking at weeks 4-5, giving you only a few weeks for growth.

    I'd rather run a long ester for 10-12 weeks, and use short esters for short cycles.
    Thanks for the quick and good answer, luckily i have plenty of test and Tamox on hand. I don't think i'm gonna order aigain since i already have a fine to pay for, but i have told evryone i know that i'm after clomi so hopefully i'll have it sorted. I was merely wondering if it was realy bad not to have clomi aswell, cause if it was i would have jumped in my car on a smuggler run hehe.

    I'm in my second week now, had 4 injections. Iv'e heard a few other saying the same thing as you do and have now decided to run my cycle for 10 weeks, but then it would be a good idea to extend my pct maybe, how does this sound:

    Tamox:
    40/40/20/20/20

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBfromfightclub View Post
    dosent the test level peak only like 2-3 days after injection and then tapper off over a week?
    Not test enanathate atleast, it takes 2-4 weeks to kick in and i think the effect is halfed after something like 10,5 days. Thats why you wait 2 weeks after the last injection to start your pct(since your test level will be kept up for that long after pinning).

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    Quote Originally Posted by inevitable View Post
    agree... long ester for only 8weeks is not worth it. as for the nolva only pct. thats all i use. Stopped using clomid for pct a few cycles ago and never looked back.
    K, good to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgers View Post
    Thanks for the quick and good answer, luckily i have plenty of test and Tamox on hand. I don't think i'm gonna order aigain since i already have a fine to pay for, but i have told evryone i know that i'm after clomi so hopefully i'll have it sorted. I was merely wondering if it was realy bad not to have clomi aswell, cause if it was i would have jumped in my car on a smuggler run hehe.

    I'm in my second week now, had 4 injections. Iv'e heard a few other saying the same thing as you do and have now decided to run my cycle for 10 weeks, but then it would be a good idea to extend my pct maybe, how does this sound:

    Tamox:
    40/40/20/20/20
    sounds good.

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    sounds good.

    good luck
    Thanks, have a good weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan111 View Post
    No...re-reread what D7M wrote, as it is correct. You might want to try checking out the steroid profiles section as well to learn more.
    I've read the profiles, I guess im partly thrown off by the diagram...
    The profile says the active life is 15 days...

    So perhaps im not getting what he is saying as far as context by "since the test is really peaking at weeks 4-5".

    so what does that mean exactly?

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    diagram

    Sry for got to hit upload on the last post
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    bob are you serious....???

    Test E is a LONG ESTER.....

    Go Back to the Profile Forum and do some homework....

    and

    Your best bet would be to get some Nolva.... You should be fine with out the clomid....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bntz305 View Post
    bob are you serious....???

    Test E is a LONG ESTER.....

    Go Back to the Profile Forum and do some homework....

    and

    Your best bet would be to get some Nolva.... You should be fine with out the clomid....
    ive read it like 5 times, the only thing I can find that relates is

    "Very often users will shoot this drug once or twice a week, but blood levels are still above baseline with this drug at around day eight"

    I understand that it is Test with a ester attached to make its active life longer...

    So I think I am just not understanding the context perhaps of what he is saying.

    Is it that through continuous injections there is a synergistic effect to where the desired/peak levels aren't achieved until perhaps the 5th or so injection?

    If so that makes since to me and I understand, but as far as the peak levels from injection all the data im seeing is showing me that it peaks after a couple days and tappers of over a week and is no longer active after 15 days...

    I've never done a injection cycle so I am just trying to learn and I think that i am just not understanding what he ment context wise...

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