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    Smile Winter bulker whos ready?

    [Im ready for a winter bulker, Not a Newbie... Had an issue about year ago with a nasty infection in my ass... Im finnally ready to step up and put some mass on again ... Im almost in double digits as far cycles that Ive ran.. Any suggestions or comments well needed . Im over the test- dbol test- deca bulking cycles... Im looking for a 3 maybe 4 drug cycle time to get big BROS

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    do you have a proposed cycle?

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    Reminds of us your stats again, then proceed to layout a cycle for critique.

    Thanks.

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    I find it very funny! Stats Stats thats all everyone asks for?... Really has nothing to do with my question. Ive given enough info to make an honest answer... Im sure ill get all kinds of bashing over this too... However this fourm never used to be like this. So if I was 26 or 29 years old 7, 8 ,9 cycles 10 % or 13% 5.9 or 5.11 and wanted bulk ... A bulking cycle is A BULKING cycle reguardless... Like I said im not a NEWBIE.
    This is going to be good... HAHA lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-gunz View Post
    do you have a proposed cycle?
    NOt really just looking to see if anyone wants to be creative and throw something out there for me...
    Heres my Stats lol,
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    I'm ready for it alright, but going to be smarter about it this year. Holding some sort of abs entire time, still doing my cardio, and rather than running XYZ type cycles, going the peptide route w/ just test and possibly 1 other compound. No more getting fat just to have to diet longer

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    I'm kinda with you with the stat thing. Its not you were asking for/or expecting a medical answer,your question seemed hypothetical to me. But stats can be helpful with many questions, just maybe not this one. But that is the way the general public here wants it, so I think its better to go with the flow.

    I got one set up for my winter bulker...you might like.
    1-6 test cyp 750 a week
    1-6 tren ace 525 a week(75 ed)
    1-4 100 mg drol a day
    1-6 50 mg TNE every workout
    day (5 days a week or 250 mg)
    6-12 test cyp 1000 mg a week
    6-16 npp 500 mg a week
    12-16 700 mg test prop a week
    12-16 500 mg mast prop a week

    6 unit slin on waking. 6 unit prework out. (20 units on thankgiving- oh yeah-favorite day of the year)
    10 units GH every fourth day.

    I'm(currently)
    6'2"
    255 pound
    10-15 bf( not been tested in a long while, but I think 12 percent)
    Double digit cycles. I have done most commonly availible aas, as I have made an effort to try everything.

    So I'm ready for winter bulker. Its driving me crazy having the stuff but not using it. Oct 1 is the start date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I'm kinda with you with the stat thing. Its not you were asking for/or expecting a medical answer,your question seemed hypothetical to me. But stats can be helpful with many questions, just maybe not this one. But that is the way the general public here wants it, so I think its better to go with the flow.

    I got one set up for my winter bulker...you might like.
    1-6 test cyp 750 a week
    1-6 tren ace 525 a week(75 ed)
    1-4 100 mg drol a day
    1-6 50 mg TNE every workout
    day (5 days a week or 250 mg)
    6-12 test cyp 1000 mg a week
    6-16 npp 500 mg a week
    12-16 700 mg test prop a week
    12-16 500 mg mast prop a week

    6 unit slin on waking. 6 unit prework out. (20 units on thankgiving- oh yeah-favorite day of the year)
    10 units GH every fourth day.

    I'm(currently)
    6'2"
    255 pound
    10-15 bf( not been tested in a long while, but I think 12 percent)
    Double digit cycles. I have done most commonly availible aas, as I have made an effort to try everything.

    So I'm ready for winter bulker. Its driving me crazy having the stuff but not using it. Oct 1 is the start date.
    Holy crap!

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    holy crap is right

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    Curious as to why you want to bulk when you are already 255lbs? Do you have a weight goal in mind? Do you plan on competing?

    Your cycle is very advanced. Personally don't see a real reason for a normal guy with no purpose in competing to be using such a significant amount of anabolics. But to each their own, I can't argue with that.

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    I'm ready for a winter bulk if you are buying!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I'm kinda with you with the stat thing. Its not you were asking for/or expecting a medical answer,your question seemed hypothetical to me. But stats can be helpful with many questions, just maybe not this one. But that is the way the general public here wants it, so I think its better to go with the flow.

    I got one set up for my winter bulker...you might like.
    1-6 test cyp 750 a week
    1-6 tren ace 525 a week(75 ed)
    1-4 100 mg drol a day
    1-6 50 mg TNE every workout
    day (5 days a week or 250 mg)
    6-12 test cyp 1000 mg a week
    6-16 npp 500 mg a week
    12-16 700 mg test prop a week
    12-16 500 mg mast prop a week

    6 unit slin on waking. 6 unit prework out. (20 units on thankgiving- oh yeah-favorite day of the year)
    10 units GH every fourth day.

    I'm(currently)
    6'2"
    255 pound
    10-15 bf( not been tested in a long while, but I think 12 percent)
    Double digit cycles. I have done most commonly availible aas, as I have made an effort to try everything.

    So I'm ready for winter bulker. Its driving me crazy having the stuff but not using it. Oct 1 is the start date.

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    I think I would front load with the 1000 cyp and then back off to the 750.

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    Just because i dont understand the purpose... Why add a short ester test at the end of a cycle? not judgein I've only heard of front loading with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer View Post
    Just because i dont understand the purpose... Why add a short ester test at the end of a cycle? not judgein I've only heard of front loading with it.
    Its for the last few weeks while your waiting for the long ester to clear your system before PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    Curious as to why you want to bulk when you are already 255lbs? Do you have a weight goal in mind? Do you plan on competing?

    Your cycle is very advanced. Personally don't see a real reason for a normal guy with no purpose in competing to be using such a significant amount of anabolics. But to each their own, I can't argue with that.
    255(wet and not lean-abs show but bearly) at 6'2 is not that big.I have been 275 and even then I was not that large.
    I do have asperations to compete but have never felt like I was big enough to feel like I would be anything other then a backround competitor. I Honesty believe with my frame and structure I would have to come in at 26O-270 dry and lean to be competitive. Which to me means I have to get to 280-290 . And I'm a couple cycles aways from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I'm kinda with you with the stat thing. Its not you were asking for/or expecting a medical answer,your question seemed hypothetical to me. But stats can be helpful with many questions, just maybe not this one. But that is the way the general public here wants it, so I think its better to go with the flow.

    I got one set up for my winter bulker...you might like.
    1-6 test cyp 750 a week
    1-6 tren ace 525 a week(75 ed)
    1-4 100 mg drol a day
    1-6 50 mg TNE every workout
    day (5 days a week or 250 mg)
    6-12 test cyp 1000 mg a week
    6-16 npp 500 mg a week
    12-16 700 mg test prop a week
    12-16 500 mg mast prop a week

    6 unit slin on waking. 6 unit prework out. (20 units on thankgiving- oh yeah-favorite day of the year)
    10 units GH every fourth day.

    I'm(currently)
    6'2"
    255 pound
    10-15 bf( not been tested in a long while, but I think 12 percent)
    Double digit cycles. I have done most commonly availible aas, as I have made an effort to try everything.

    So I'm ready for winter bulker. Its driving me crazy having the stuff but not using it. Oct 1 is the start date.
    Heres someone that Got the point of my post !!!
    Time to get fired up for winter our bodies naturally put more weight on reguardless , including all the holidays, food etc... Anyways
    Two questions why the increase cyp 750 to 1000 mg at wk 6? Also Ive heard of Tren used as a bulker, is that to solidfy some of your test- drol gains or what? Just curious where your creative thinking is going with that ? Love the cycle wish I had the doe for that, looks like youve been planning this one!!!
    Thanks BRO Much Appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVR2BIG1 View Post
    I'm ready for it alright, but going to be smarter about it this year. Holding some sort of abs entire time, still doing my cardio, and rather than running XYZ type cycles, going the peptide route w/ just test and possibly 1 other compound. No more getting fat just to have to diet longer
    I agree Ive had that problem in the past GETTING BLOATED !!! My diet is in check now!! My family always asks why my face looks so BLOATED in winter pics haha!!!
    Must be the CREATINE

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    255(wet and not lean-abs show but bearly) at 6'2 is not that big.I have been 275 and even then I was not that large.
    I do have asperations to compete but have never felt like I was big enough to feel like I would be anything other then a backround competitor. I Honesty believe with my frame and structure I would have to come in at 26O-270 dry and lean to be competitive. Which to me means I have to get to 280-290 . And I'm a couple cycles aways from that.
    Guys that are competing in the 260-270 range are usually 285 ten days out from the show and a lean 300+ off season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sector View Post
    Its for the last few weeks while your waiting for the long ester to clear your system before PCT.
    Yeah it makes it Much easier to predict when you should start you pct. Prop is out in 3 or 4 days. Test cyp somewhere between 10 and 20 day. I have been ending every cycle with prop for the last several years and I recover faster as my pct is more effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Guys that are competing in the 260-270 range are usually 285 ten days out from the show and a lean 300+ off season.
    300 is has been a dream of mine that I want to hit at least once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by needle View Post
    Heres someone that Got the point of my post !!!
    Time to get fired up for winter our bodies naturally put more weight on reguardless , including all the holidays, food etc... Anyways
    Two questions why the increase cyp 750 to 1000 mg at wk 6? Also Ive heard of Tren used as a bulker, is that to solidfy some of your test- drol gains or what? Just curious where your creative thinking is going with that ? Love the cycle wish I had the doe for that, looks like youve been planning this one!!!
    Thanks BRO Much Appreciated
    I typically only run tren for 6 or 8 weeks at a time. I feel like I get "immune" to tren after a 6 weeks. I could up the dose but too much tren gives me high bp. Tren will keep me hard(er) with that test and drol.

    I up the dose of test at week six as I drop 700 mg drol, 525 tren, 250 of tne. My total androgens goes down 1500 mg. That why I add more test and a nandrone. I want to keep my total androgens around 2g a week. With a slight taper towards the end.

    Home brewing some of the stuff makes it more cost effective. I buy test/nanodrone/eq made, but tren, masteron ,primo, and most orals can be made at a fraction of the cost.

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    This is my bulk starting in two wks. Haven't cycled in a while due to financial issues but I've been cruising so I still made gains on and off when I wasn't dealing with surgeries and other injuries. Due to the length of time off is why this cycle is going to be low key.

    Wks 1-12
    Test e 1400mg a wk
    tren ace 75-100mg Ed
    ghrp-6 400mcg Ed
    dex .25 Ed
    slin postworkout wks 8-12 if bf% stays below 12%
    might add in some winny or primo tabs last 6-8 wks not sure yet

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    This thread is the BEST thing I've seen in a while OP props!

    LOL... who isn't excited for the winter-bulking season?! My body has been wanting carbs BAD for the last couple of months. Time to light it up

    I'm going to throw mine up for fun...

    T-bol (weeks 8 - 16) @ 80mg/ed
    Var (weeks 8 - 16) @ 100mg/ed
    Sust (weeks 1 - 13) @ 250mg/wk
    Deca (weeks 1 - 12) @ 950mg/wk
    Primo (weeks 1 - 13) @ 1000mg/wk
    Test-P (weeks 14 - 16) @ 50mg/eod

    Considering adding EQ in for 14 weeks at a gram/wk. But still on the fence. Already heavy cycle.

    Waiting for blood-tests before I jump on... still a couple of weeks out!

    Goal: Get to 255 - 260.

    -VM

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I'm kinda with you with the stat thing. Its not you were asking for/or expecting a medical answer,your question seemed hypothetical to me. But stats can be helpful with many questions, just maybe not this one. But that is the way the general public here wants it, so I think its better to go with the flow.

    I got one set up for my winter bulker...you might like.
    1-6 test cyp 750 a week
    1-6 tren ace 525 a week(75 ed)
    1-4 100 mg drol a day
    1-6 50 mg TNE every workout
    day (5 days a week or 250 mg)
    6-12 test cyp 1000 mg a week
    6-16 npp 500 mg a week
    12-16 700 mg test prop a week
    12-16 500 mg mast prop a week

    6 unit slin on waking. 6 unit prework out. (20 units on thankgiving- oh yeah-favorite day of the year)
    10 units GH every fourth day.

    I'm(currently)
    6'2"
    255 pound
    10-15 bf( not been tested in a long while, but I think 12 percent)
    Double digit cycles. I have done most commonly availible aas, as I have made an effort to try everything.

    So I'm ready for winter bulker. Its driving me crazy having the stuff but not using it. Oct 1 is the start date.
    thats it? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    This thread is the BEST thing I've seen in a while OP props!

    LOL... who isn't excited for the winter-bulking season?! My body has been wanting carbs BAD for the last couple of months. Time to light it up

    I'm going to throw mine up for fun...

    T-bol (weeks 8 - 16) @ 80mg/ed
    Var (weeks 8 - 16) @ 100mg/ed
    Sust (weeks 1 - 13) @ 250mg/wk
    Deca (weeks 1 - 12) @ 950mg/wk
    Primo (weeks 1 - 13) @ 1000mg/wk
    Test-P (weeks 14 - 16) @ 50mg/eod

    Considering adding EQ in for 14 weeks at a gram/wk. But still on the fence. Already heavy cycle.

    Waiting for blood-tests before I jump on... still a couple of weeks out!

    Goal: Get to 255 - 260.

    -VM

    how come deca is so high? was the gains that noticeable on deca last time you are deciding to run it at a high dose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    This thread is the BEST thing I've seen in a while OP props!

    LOL... who isn't excited for the winter-bulking season?! My body has been wanting carbs BAD for the last couple of months. Time to light it up

    I'm going to throw mine up for fun...

    T-bol (weeks 8 - 16) @ 80mg/ed
    Var (weeks 8 - 16) @ 100mg/ed
    Sust (weeks 1 - 13) @ 250mg/wk
    Deca (weeks 1 - 12) @ 950mg/wk
    Primo (weeks 1 - 13) @ 1000mg/wk
    Test-P (weeks 14 - 16) @ 50mg/eod

    Considering adding EQ in for 14 weeks at a gram/wk. But still on the fence. Already heavy cycle.

    Waiting for blood-tests before I jump on... still a couple of weeks out!

    Goal: Get to 255 - 260.

    -VM
    Thats what I like to here LETS GET PUMPED.
    Im going to go watch PUMPING IRON !!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I'm kinda with you with the stat thing. Its not you were asking for/or expecting a medical answer,your question seemed hypothetical to me. But stats can be helpful with many questions, just maybe not this one. But that is the way the general public here wants it, so I think its better to go with the flow.

    I got one set up for my winter bulker...you might like.
    1-6 test cyp 750 a week
    1-6 tren ace 525 a week(75 ed)
    1-4 100 mg drol a day
    1-6 50 mg TNE every workout
    day (5 days a week or 250 mg)
    6-12 test cyp 1000 mg a week
    6-16 npp 500 mg a week
    12-16 700 mg test prop a week
    12-16 500 mg mast prop a week

    6 unit slin on waking. 6 unit prework out. (20 units on thankgiving- oh yeah-favorite day of the year)
    10 units GH every fourth day.

    I'm(currently)
    6'2"
    255 pound
    10-15 bf( not been tested in a long while, but I think 12 percent)
    Double digit cycles. I have done most commonly availible aas, as I have made an effort to try everything.

    So I'm ready for winter bulker. Its driving me crazy having the stuff but not using it. Oct 1 is the start date.
    Well I think im going to piggy back on your cycle... I have tren hgh cyp and drol dbol on hand ! So I think i can make something out of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by needle View Post
    [Im ready for a winter bulker, Not a Newbie... Had an issue about year ago with a nasty infection in my ass... Im finnally ready to step up and put some mass on again ... Im almost in double digits as far cycles that Ive ran.. Any suggestions or comments well needed . Im over the test- dbol test- deca bulking cycles... Im looking for a 3 maybe 4 drug cycle time to get big BROS
    shit mate, after I've almost recovered from the stinger in my left arm, then my left knee was blown out which means no squats or any real cardio, you'd think it was winter time already the way I've added some weight. I'm up to 230, and the rehab in my knee will continue for at least another month or so.....

    my workouts are real weird right now, but I keep pluggin away prayin for the day I'm healthy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themoreyouknow View Post
    thats it? lol
    I agree. Looks light to me! =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    shit mate, after I've almost recovered from the stinger in my left arm, then my left knee was blown out which means no squats or any real cardio, you'd think it was winter time already the way I've added some weight. I'm up to 230, and the rehab in my knee will continue for at least another month or so.....

    my workouts are real weird right now, but I keep pluggin away prayin for the day I'm healthy again.
    Cen Cals best !!! Ballys Old golds GB3 let me guess!!! Probably know each other!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I'm kinda with you with the stat thing. Its not you were asking for/or expecting a medical answer,your question seemed hypothetical to me. But stats can be helpful with many questions, just maybe not this one. But that is the way the general public here wants it, so I think its better to go with the flow.

    I got one set up for my winter bulker...you might like.
    1-6 test cyp 750 a week
    1-6 tren ace 525 a week(75 ed)
    1-4 100 mg drol a day
    1-6 50 mg TNE every workout
    day (5 days a week or 250 mg)
    6-12 test cyp 1000 mg a week
    6-16 npp 500 mg a week
    12-16 700 mg test prop a week
    12-16 500 mg mast prop a week

    6 unit slin on waking. 6 unit prework out. (20 units on thankgiving- oh yeah-favorite day of the year)
    10 units GH every fourth day.

    I'm(currently)
    6'2"
    255 pound
    10-15 bf( not been tested in a long while, but I think 12 percent)
    Double digit cycles. I have done most commonly availible aas, as I have made an effort to try everything.

    So I'm ready for winter bulker. Its driving me crazy having the stuff but not using it. Oct 1 is the start date.
    Why are you running hgh 10iu every 4 days? Just curious why dont you spread it out? ...or take more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by needle View Post
    Thats what I like to here LETS GET PUMPED.
    Im going to go watch PUMPING IRON !!!!!!!!!
    http://www.crocopuffs.com/soundboard/arnold.html

    My hero.

    -VM

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitruvian-man View Post
    nice lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by needle View Post
    nice lol
    Give us your cycle and the doses? you said like tren /drol/d-bol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chev View Post
    Why are you running hgh 10iu every 4 days? Just curious why dont you spread it out? ...or take more?
    The biggest MF I know runs it like this. I have done some research and every four day most closely resembles a childs GH pulse. I have had a fair degree of success like this. Plus it makes a kit last a little longer. I can get 4 monthes on three kits.

    Someone mentioned GHRP-6. It is really good with dbol or drol if you have appetite drop off. It makes you very hungry, maybe too hungry at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    I recently got a dvd player in dash thingy. And I watch the dorian yates blood and guts video on the way to gym everyday. Its great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Give us your cycle and the doses? you said like tren /drol/d-bol..

    -VM
    let me get back to you on that... Have to look at the amount of gear and put it together

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    Personally I dont really believe in bulking cycles where you are trying to make HUGE short term gains. I never liked the idea of bulking up and then trying to cut; it just seems hard on the body/system and with MOST people something always goes wrong, life and the bulk cycle turns into fat and never gets cut.

    I like the slow steady approach to always trying to gain quality size over longer period of time. I personally thing it's more realistic goals and better for the body over the long run. Off and on cycle my goals are the same, just is a good bump to overcome hurdles and gain a little extra size but hopefully to maintain it after.

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    My cycles are never complex. You simply don't need a radical amount of compounds to achieve your goals, you would need a radical amount of food and proper training.

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