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    The truth about mesterolone (proviron)

    These are the results from a very comprehensive study done on proviron and its effects. It seems to show very different characteristics and traits than what the profile on this web site shows. I know this is only one study, but it is definately worth lookig over if you use proviron or are considering it. The full study along with useful charts can be found at:http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/...20et%20al..pdf

    Hope this helps

    RESULTS
    No obvious toxicity signs such as weakness, lethargy,
    tremors, refusal of feeds, weight loss, hair-loss, coma
    and death were seen in any of the animals. However,
    most of the animals exhibited calmness; improve appetite
    for food and water and general sense of well-being all
    through the duration of the study.
    Evidence of weight gained was observed in all the animals
    in both groups. Although, the mean average raw
    body weight gained of animals in the proviron treated animals
    were lower in the control. However, the proviron
    treated group weight was not significantly different from
    that of the control, using ANOVA as shown in Table 1.
    Moreover, both the raw testicular weight and relative
    testicular weight decreased significantly (P < 0.05) in the
    proviron treated group as compared to the control as
    shown in Table 1.
    Proviron group has the sperm count of about 1.4 times
    significantly (P< 0.05) lower than the control. The sperm
    motility of proviron is about 2.8 times significantly lower
    than the control.in the proviron group was significantly lower than the
    control as shown in Table 2.
    Proviron has lower significant (P < 0.05) % spermatogonial
    count than the control as shown in Table 4.
    However, testosterone level in the proviron group was
    about 2.7 folds significantly (P<0.01) lower than control.
    While, the FSH level in proviron was 3.7 folds significantly
    (P<0.05) lower than the control as shown in Table
    3.
    Histology of control rats’ testis (Figure 1a): Numerous
    round tubules with a fewer elongated ones. Most of the
    tubules are regularly shaped with evidence of active spermatogenic
    and spermiogenic activity seen.
    Table 1. Summary of body and organ weights of animals.

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    Man, there is alot of mixed reviews of this drug. Has anyone had any experience with it? One thing that seems to be consistent among all the articles I have read is that it increases your libido in a big way.

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    i have lots of experience with proviron . i log everything. i have my exact logs from 15 years ago.

    as of six days ago i ran out of proviron and i can get wood. but i can not pop. so tool functions, but the mental chemical deficit wont support a climax... the pop.

    today i hammered away for four hours and was disgusted i only had use of the tool, but no mental climax ability. every time i run out of proviron this happens, and it takes four to six days to recover. my regimen is .50mg of proviron per day.

    i took levitra today. one 10mg tablet and it made my heart bounce off my rib cage for six hours, and im still hyped. i lost my hearing countless times through out the day in place of ringing sensations. this was my first use of levitra, trying to make up for the lack of proviron.

    there are 3 mechanisms needed to perform, when using certain AAS. this applies differently to each individual. My supplements per mechanism are cialis for wood, proviron for climax ability within the mental sensation to achieve a pop, and prami for the pituitary gland in the brain with its help in making up for dopemine disfunction..... also responsible for achieving the wood and mental excitement both.

    so. outstanding of its other supporting benefits, i need it specifically to keep my mental chemicals in check for a healthy sexual performance. i have run out of it enough to know its effect and lack there of.

    yea.... it aids in sexual performance in a big way. but be sure and implement prami (PREFERABLY CABER. seriously). Keep on hand CABER/Proviron/Cialis. Caber keeps you saturated 2.5 to 3 days so you can have good solid overlapping maintenance. Prami has an 8 to 10 hour half life requiring daily maintenance. which gives your chemical levels time to veer off before your next dose.

    tomorrow i get my new proviron stock.
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    Well I was going to say proviron is great for boners...but I think superbird covered it.
    One of my favorite cycles ever was 700-1000 mg of prop, 700 mg proviron. Not the most complex or significant cycle but I felt and looked great.I have always felt that proviron is the most underated aas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    Well I was going to say proviron is great for boners...but I think superbird covered it.
    One of my favorite cycles ever was 700-1000 mg of prop, 700 mg proviron. Not the most complex or significant cycle but I felt and looked great.I have always felt that proviron is the most underated aas.
    Wow dude, that's high dose. I am curious about Proviron, and every one has different opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boyka View Post
    Wow dude, that's high dose. I am curious about Proviron , and every one has different opinions.
    100 mg a day is what I have found to be the most effective. although 50 mg a day is ok. I see no reason to go over a 100mg.

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    kind of puts me off taking it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleck View Post
    kind of puts me off taking it...
    I think it definatelyhas a use, but there seems to b mixed conclusions regarding its effect on the hpta.

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't proviron supposed to enhance the effectiveness of the other gear you use on cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't proviron supposed to enhance the effectiveness of the other gear you use on cycle?
    You wrong.

    Its meant to because it lowers SHBG, but exogenous testosterone actually LOWERS SHBG in a dose respondant manner. Are Free T levels also get so high SHBG is of little or no relevance.

    This study is done on animals for one and there is a fair bit of human data on Proviron .

    It can inhibit the HPTA in some and not others. Some studies show no HPTA inhibition upto doses of 150mg/ED for extended peroids, others show inhibition in lower doses.

    Its not for everyone during PCT, thats for sure, but some can use it to their advantage as it increases labido being a DHT derivative (most, if not all do this) and due to its androgenic characteristics (enhance labido, CNS, strength, aggresssion).

    Class dismissed...

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    i use proveron in my pct and love it

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    I'm running 50 mg ED right now during my current cycle of test/tren E/deca . Just started the proviron Monday and although the effect it's profound, my wood is solid as a railroad spike. I'm not taking it for the "gains". I'm taking it to combat the sexual dysfunction related to the gear in my cycle. Any benefits I get the enhance the test dose I'm taking are just a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    You wrong.

    Its meant to because it lowers SHBG, but exogenous testosterone actually LOWERS SHBG in a dose respondant manner. Are Free T levels also get so high SHBG is of little or no relevance.

    This study is done on animals for one and there is a fair bit of human data on Proviron .

    It can inhibit the HPTA in some and not others. Some studies show no HPTA inhibition upto doses of 150mg/ED for extended peroids, others show inhibition in lower doses.

    Its not for everyone during PCT, thats for sure, but some can use it to their advantage as it increases labido being a DHT derivative (most, if not all do this) and due to its androgenic characteristics (enhance labido, CNS, strength, aggresssion).

    Class dismissed...
    thanks for correcting me and the education lesson! So would proviron have any use for someone who is cruising?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    thanks for correcting me and the education lesson! So would proviron have any use for someone who is cruising?
    Its very weak at reducing estrogen too. I found it very weak.

    Some seem to get its androgenic effects more than others. It can raise labido when cruising, thats petty much it. It may harden muscles, but wont lead to gains in LBM. Again, its all due to it being very androgenic and a DHT derivative.

    Some like it instead of an AI, but I managed to get a small case of gyno and acne on Test Enan + Proviorn.

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    ^Agreed.

    I don't see a need for it, personally, while cruising.

    One of the main benefits would be libido,

    but my libido and well being is better at 200mg/wk compared to 500+mg/wk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Its very weak at reducing estrogen too. I found it very weak.

    Some seem to get its androgenic effects more than others. It can raise labido when cruising, thats petty much it. It may harden muscles, but wont lead to gains in LBM. Again, its all due to it being very androgenic and a DHT derivative.

    Some like it instead of an AI, but I managed to get a small case of gyno and acne on Test Enan + Proviorn.
    if on trt/cruise would 50mg or less of proviron be enuf? i had been thinking of using it for the muscle hardening effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    You wrong.

    Its meant to because it lowers SHBG, but exogenous testosterone actually LOWERS SHBG in a dose respondant manner. Are Free T levels also get so high SHBG is of little or no relevance.

    This study is done on animals for one and there is a fair bit of human data on Proviron .

    It can inhibit the HPTA in some and not others. Some studies show no HPTA inhibition upto doses of 150mg/ED for extended peroids, others show inhibition in lower doses.

    Its not for everyone during PCT, thats for sure, but some can use it to their advantage as it increases labido being a DHT derivative (most, if not all do this) and due to its androgenic characteristics (enhance labido, CNS, strength, aggresssion).

    Class dismissed...
    I agree with swifto to some degree. Although SHBG is already lowered considerably with exogenous test, lowering it even further never hurts and might be even more effective for future cycles. I think in terms of muscle hardening and estro control, it is very dose dependent and user dependent.

    besides that, what's wrong with a constant hard on and a libido of a pornstar? ahaaha.

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