NEED HELP STARTING MY VERY 1st CYCLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**FLADBO** · 09-22-2010, 11:51 PM

i finally got sick of dealing with bullshit supps so im pullin the trigger
on some gear
i weigh 240 lbs.
my first cycle i want to look like this :
12 WEEKS
Test CYP/ 500mg week for 11 weeks
DECA / 200-400mg week not sure told i need 400mg for 10 weeks
D-BOL/ 35mg a day for 4 weeks
nolvadex /10-20mg a day for 16 wks.
vitamin B-6/ 200mg a day for 16 wks.

and clomid therapy week 14-16
day 1 300mg day 2-11/ 100mg day 12-21 50mg

I WOULD REALLY WANT TO AVOID GYNO AT ALL COSTS
so if you guys have any objections just leave a comment or email

i would also plan on taking these supps:
GNC WHEY PROTEIN 60g Per Serving
MILK THISTLE 1 GRAM/D
H-THORNE BERRY EXTRACT 5 GRAMS/D
MULTI-V
OMEGA 3 FISH OIL
BCAA 60 GRAMS/D
GLUTAMINE 30 GRAMS/D
ALPHA LIPOIC ACID 900mg/D
VIT. C 3 GRAMS/D
Resveratrol 2 GRAMS/D
SAW PALMETTO

was also considering omega 6's and Pre Workout

also any info and or objections just leave a comment or email
also if you guys know of any good mass workouts and diets

ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED THANKS

**big_ron** · 09-23-2010, 12:03 AM

Way to much compounds for a 1st cycle!

You mentioned your weight...What are your other stats? this is important!

I suggest your have a read of this thread, it will outline the best biggeners cycle info - Test beginner cycle info

This will have basically every thing you need to know

**Numb uK** · 09-23-2010, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by big_ron

Way to much compounds for a 1st cycle!

You mentioned your weight...What are your other stats? this is important!

I suggest your have a read of this thread, it will outline the best biggeners cycle info - Test beginner cycle info

This will have basically every thing you need to know

Indeed I totally agree with you. Lets see some stats please.

**gonzo6183** · 09-23-2010, 12:32 AM

Age?
Height?
Bodyfat?
Training Experience?
Goals?

**needle** · 09-23-2010, 12:49 AM

How about test only...

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-23-2010, 01:13 AM

Full stats before any cycle advise is given.

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 09-23-2010, 07:22 AM

As every1 has stated stats are a pre-req to cycle advice. Also is your PCT only 2 weeks?

**dsldsl1980** · 09-23-2010, 07:33 AM

if over 16% bf everyone will say cut first diet and cardio. If under test only unless your really focusing on getting bigger. Then 4 weeks dbol . Deca is for later cycles.

**FLADBO** · 09-23-2010, 07:19 PM

im 6 feet tall and 240 depending on day
and atleast 20% body fat i dont know what other stats you want
i can bench press 425 pounds i get strong and quick just takes me
forever to get big i've been training for six years and im 20 years old

my bicep is 18 inchs waist 38 inches these are the only measurements i know

i know people are gunna tell me to cut up but i want to get bigger
then cut up i want to try and hit 230-240 lbs. 8% body fat by next summer
and also be able to rep 3 plates on bench, atleast 1 plate on curls, rep 4 plate on deads,
rep 3 or 4 plates on squat i had a leg injury so im back below 2 plates
going for 20 inch arms just overall bigger everything

any input greatly appreciated if you guys thinks thats too many compounds
for a first cycle

then what about
500mg Test Cyp. wk
40mg D-BOL daily/4 weeks

i want to take precautionary anti estros while on cycle to make sure i dont get gyno tell me what you guys think i should use arimadex or letro or what
and i was gunna take clomid for pct for 3 weeks

**flexandex** · 09-23-2010, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by FLADBO

i can bench press 425 pounds i get strong and quick

by next summer
and also be able to rep 3 plates on bench

So you can bench 425 pounds right now

and after your cycle you want to beable to bench 315 for reps?

The best thing to do is just tell the truth mayne..

**FLADBO** · 09-23-2010, 10:37 PM

425 max you ****in dick
i can do 315 only 10 times once
****in faget

**flexandex** · 09-24-2010, 04:27 AM

um ok?

my bad man, relax..

just so you know, 315 for 10 would be considered 315 for reps

yay you achieved your goal, no need to cycle nw

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 09-24-2010, 07:04 AM

At 20 years old you have so much natural test right now you do not need AAS. What you need is a solid diet.

**Tha Freak** · 09-24-2010, 09:00 AM

wait six years get your bf% down to atleast 12-14 and do a test only cycle

**Ca$tro** · 09-24-2010, 02:39 PM

I have been researching my cycle for along time now and the first thing i learnt is that i still have alot to learn and gain from the experienced users on the site. Be patient, research get things 110% right then give it your best shot. You need to provide people with stats and history. 20% Body fat is where i am at and i am not starting my cycle till i get below 15%, diet is the key to success bro. Good luck and make sure you use the good advice you will get off the site.

**FLADBO** · 09-25-2010, 01:50 AM

all i get from you guys is to take just test and dbol
still would like some good PCT info and precautionary
gear i could take while on cycle i really want my sides
to be as mild as possible and avoid gyno

also if you guys know anywhere i could look up
a good bulk and cut diet and maybe a workout
plan i need a real solid bulk workout i think ones
that really cover everything are hard to come by

**powerws** · 09-25-2010, 12:24 PM

Everybody just wants answers without researching. I will tell you from first hand experience that there were things I learned that I wasn't looking for. IMHO you NEED to read the educational threads and do more extensive research. I will also tell you that in the diet section there are diets that you can emulate. Every question you have,......... will have an answer if you look for it. Don't make the same mistake I did and just do what someone says. Everybody is different. Just trying to help, not trying to come off as a pr**k. Goodluck

**DurdensArmy** · 09-25-2010, 12:55 PM

i dont understand why the really young guys that come on here asking for advice think that putting all caps or disrespecting members that have been here for along time with great advice is the way to get what they want. All you need to do is read everything you could want to know is more than likely in a previous post and the question has already been answered.

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 09-25-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by FLADBO

all i get from you guys is to take just test and dbol
still would like some good PCT info and precautionary
gear i could take while on cycle i really want my sides
to be as mild as possible and avoid gyno

also if you guys know anywhere i could look up
a good bulk and cut diet and maybe a workout
plan i need a real solid bulk workout i think ones
that really cover everything are hard to come by

So, if I understand you correctly, you basically want us to tell you how to do everything? What to use, how to use it, what to eat while using it, how to workout while on it (once for "bulking" and once for "cutting"), what to use for sides while on it, how to avoid gyno while using it, precautionary suppliments to take with it and a solid PCT for when you are done cycling it?

Anything else?

**DurdensArmy** · 09-25-2010, 03:18 PM

**FLADBO** · 09-26-2010, 11:24 PM

the only reason i signed up on here was to get some info on
doing my first cycle then all you want to do is sit here and criticize
people bout shit go **** yourself you little **** and durdens army your
a small bitch i was that big when i was 16 years come to florida and get your ****in head stomped on i hope your not juicin and still that small

you guys dont help for shit

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-27-2010, 12:09 AM

Yeah, were all full of shit.... and that's why this board has been around since you were 10 years old.

You will be gone just as fast as you signed up if you keep that attitude up kid.

**Reed** · 09-27-2010, 12:29 AM

This kid is acting like a punk and wanting his hand held. I say let him learn it himself . The answers are right in front your face of your if look around here. Good luck.

**lovbyts** · 09-27-2010, 12:39 AM

Maybe we can get DSM to go over and do the injections for him also since he seems to need his hand held and spoon feed all the way.
DSM might be able to get him headed in the right direction

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**lovbyts** · 09-27-2010, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Yeah, were all full of shit.... and that's why this board has been around since you were 10 years old.

You will be gone just as fast as you signed up if you keep that attitude up kid.

I hope you dont mind the correction but I really think the board has been around longer than 4 or 5 years...

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-27-2010, 02:56 AM

I stand corrected

**SomeRandomGuy** · 09-27-2010, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by FLADBO

i can bench press 425 pounds

Originally Posted by FLADBO

then cut up i want to try and hit 230-240 lbs. 8% body fat by next summer
and also be able to rep 3 plates on bench

Originally Posted by FLADBO

425 max you ****in dick
i can do 315 only 10 times once
****in faget

lolololololololol. Try a different number, 425 smells pretty bad.

**DurdensArmy** · 09-27-2010, 11:38 AM

this guy is ridiculous, hes already got rage issues obviously, hate to see what a cycle would do to him

**Nooomoto** · 09-27-2010, 11:48 AM

FLAD...you're not being nice, and your thread sucks.

This will make it better.

You are welcome.

**MACHINE5150** · 09-27-2010, 11:56 AM

KID... sorry if these guys are being mean and not answering your questions.. i recomend you do twice as much as you proposed in your orginal post, but i also recomend you inject it interveniously as it gets into your system much faster.. PCT is for pussies, just stay on the gear until you get as big as you want to be..

PLEASE NOTE THIS ADVICE IS FOR FLADBO AND FLADBO ONLY