Advice On Big_Rons Next Cycle

[big_ron]

This will be my 4th Cycle. Other cycles have included test/deca /win at low doses.
Last was 500mg Test P 1-8 Weeks

I have always recovered crappy and lost gains, so this time i will be running HCG for the 1st time.

21YR (not going to lie)
6ft
213lbs
14-16 % BF (I am cutting for about another month before starting so will hopefully be around 12%)

Blood work will be done in a week or so to confirm i am recovered

My goal is lean bulk as much as possible of course!

Cycle looks like this

Dbol 1-4 50mg ED (may increase or decrease depending on sides)
Test P 1-12 175mg EOD
NNP 1-11 150mg EOD (Question i have seen mixed suggestions to shoot EOD,E3D and E4D. I think EOD will be fine, looking for personal experiences??)

L-dex will be run at .25 perday

Hcg 250 iu X 2 Per week

PCT will start 3 days after last prop shot (if i recall correctly)
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED
wk 1-6 Tore 60mg/ED (120mg/ED first 14 days)

All!

I dont think i have forgotten anything, im sure you guys will spot it if i have.
looking forward to suggestions (Forget trying to get through to me about age lol )

[big_ron]

Bump, c'mon guys!

[stevey_6t9]

dopamine agonist??

[big_ron]

I guess i should have some caber on hand :P

[Sector]

Id do the NPP EOD. Have caber or prami on hand. I personally would run the cycle for 10 weeks instead of 12 seein as how its short estered.

[big_ron]

Bump or am i good to go? Im going to stick with 12 weeks as i dont mind the pinning :P.
i'd like some vets to chime in

[HawaiianPride.]

Blood work prior to get a baseline comparison from post-PCT blood work.
1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
1-12 Prop 175mg EOD
1-12 NPP 150mg EOD
Clomid/Nolva when esters have dropped.
Dostinex 0.5mg 3x PW if needed
Celery seed extract 75mg 2X PD for BP
Vitamin C 3000mg PD
Lipid Stabil (3 caps/day) and Fish Oil (4 g/day) for cholesterol
Post blood work 6 weeks after PCT.

You are young, just like me, so I hope you really pay attention to your body language and get BP monitored thoroughly throughout your cycle. Good luck.

[Maxpower_sf1]

Sustaplex since you know your good with the different types of test


looks badass


also what are your goals? strength? bulk or cut?

[big_ron]

Blood work prior to get a baseline comparison from post-PCT blood work.
1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
1-12 Prop 175mg EOD
1-12 NPP 150mg EOD
Clomid/Nolva when esters have dropped.
Dostinex 0.5mg 3x PW if needed
Celery seed extract 75mg 2X PD for BP
Vitamin C 3000mg PD
Lipid Stabil (3 caps/day) and Fish Oil (4 g/day) for cholesterol
Post blood work 6 weeks after PCT.

You are young, just like me, so I hope you really pay attention to your body language and get BP monitored thoroughly throughout your cycle. Good luck.

Thanks man, I will be doing tore/nolva for pct as clomid gives me terrible emotional sides!!
I will be taking some liver support while i am on the dbol.

I thought i mentioned getting bloodwork before starting this cycle?

[big_ron]

Sustaplex since you know your good with the different types of test


looks badass


also what are your goals? strength? bulk or cut?

My goals are for a lean bulk (I also said that in my OP)
Hoping to gain alot of strength and keep it after pct.

[HawaiianPride.]

You did I just re-read the OP. Will you be under professional supervision throughout this cycle?

[big_ron]

Yes i will be monitored closely by my doctor. Thanks for the help guys, i may even do a log with pics!

[big_ron]

Bump, in regaurds to the dose. im rethinking that 175mg EOD is more then i need, i think 150mg EOD should be sufficiant.

Opinions appreciated

[big_ron]

Bump

[HawaiianPride.]

Bumps may be hopeless man. You are very young and you know how we generally don't like to set bad examples by all joining to encourage this thread to proceed. Just keeping it real, this is why you probably aren't getting any responses.

Curious, how have your previous blood panels checked out? 4 cycles at 21 is gnarley..

[t-gunz]

yeah agreed 150mg will be more than enough.

good luck with your cycle mate.

log and/or pics would be good.

[big_ron]

Bumps may be hopeless man. You are very young and you know how we generally don't like to set bad examples by all joining to encourage this thread to proceed. Just keeping it real, this is why you probably aren't getting any responses.

Curious, how have your previous blood panels checked out? 4 cycles at 21 is gnarley..

Yeah i know what you are saying. 3 cycles, the 4th i have just started. yes i had bloods done a few weeks back, testosterone is on the low scale. everything else is fine (not that test levels are not important)
But i was on the low scale before i started cycling, i will keep up regular bloods to keep an eye on it.

[big_ron]

yeah agreed 150mg will be more than enough.

good luck with your cycle mate.

log and/or pics would be good.

Yes i think i will drop it back. i will be posting the start of my log tonight