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    Cycle and blood test ?

    i posted a thread before about my current cycle and how i didnt know if it was bunk gear or not. i have been taking test prop for 5 weeks at 100 mg ed. i have been getting a little stronger and bigger but im seeing no sides, or increased sex drive at all. some say its bunk gear some say my estrogen can be so high is with decrease my sex drive, i have got many diffewrent answers. i got a blood test done, and got the results. what should i be looking at in the test to find out if my gear is real or not.

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    Skim through the blood testing forum bro. You'll find tons of threads similar to this and you'll find what normal ranges look like for an individual of your stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zokr9813 View Post
    i posted a thread before about my current cycle and how i didnt know if it was bunk gear or not. i have been taking test prop for 5 weeks at 100 mg ed. i have been getting a little stronger and bigger but im seeing no sides, or increased sex drive at all. some say its bunk gear some say my estrogen can be so high is with decrease my sex drive, i have got many diffewrent answers. i got a blood test done, and got the results. what should i be looking at in the test to find out if my gear is real or not.
    Hey i remember your original post. I was the guy that was pushing you to get your blood work done. What are your results? Post them up really quick.

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    testosterone 373 ng/dl \

    Triglyceride 35 30 - 149 mg/dL
    Cholesterol 143 100 - 199 mg/dL
    HDL Cholesterol 49 >45 - mg/dL
    VLDL Cholesterol 7 6 - 40 mg/dL
    LDL Cholesterol 87 60 - 129 mg/dL
    Fasting Time 14 hrs
    TC:HDL Ratio 2.92 1.00 - 5.00
    LDL:HDL Ratio 1.78 0.50 - 3.55
    Non HDL C 94 90 - 159 mg/dL

    Protein, Total 6.9 6.0 - 8.4 g/dL
    Albumin 4.8 3.5 - 5.0 g/dL
    Calcium 9.7 8.5 - 10.5 mg/dL
    Bilirubin, Total 0.6 0.0 - 1.5 mg/dL
    Alkaline Phosphatase 69 40 - 150 U/L
    AST 43 7 - 40 U/L
    Glucose 81 65 - 100 mg/dL
    BUN 18 10 - 25 mg/dL
    Creatinine 1.22 0.70 - 1.40 mg/dL
    Sodium 140 135 - 146 mmol/L
    Potassium 4.1 3.5 - 5.0 mmol/L
    Chloride 99 98 - 110 mmol/L
    CO2 30 23 - 32 mmol/L
    Anion Gap 11 0 - 15 mmol/L
    ALT 67 5 - 50 U/L



    i dont know if those r the ones that should be looked at let me know thx
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    I see your total test numbers but what about your free test...

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    i dont see it in my results

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    Also i forgot to ask....what is the reference ranges given on the test? If the reference range is something like 200-800 then your levels are low for even just a normal guy not on AAS. That would explain part of your low libido question. As far as your gear goes. You should stop shooting whatever it is you have into your body. With those results YOUR GEAR IS BUNK!!

    LET ME REPEAT: YOUR GEAR IS BUNK .....STOP USING ITS!

    Sorry man.

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    You should have your Total testosterone levels + Free testosterone levels + FSH and LH levels also

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    Quote Originally Posted by zokr9813 View Post
    testosterone 373 ng/dl \

    Triglyceride 35 30 - 149 mg/dL
    Cholesterol 143 100 - 199 mg/dL
    HDL Cholesterol 49 >45 - mg/dL
    VLDL Cholesterol 7 6 - 40 mg/dL
    LDL Cholesterol 87 60 - 129 mg/dL
    Fasting Time 14 hrs
    TC:HDL Ratio 2.92 1.00 - 5.00
    LDL:HDL Ratio 1.78 0.50 - 3.55
    Non HDL C 94 90 - 159 mg/dL

    Protein, Total 6.9 6.0 - 8.4 g/dL
    Albumin 4.8 3.5 - 5.0 g/dL
    Calcium 9.7 8.5 - 10.5 mg/dL
    Bilirubin, Total 0.6 0.0 - 1.5 mg/dL
    Alkaline Phosphatase 69 40 - 150 U/L
    AST 43 7 - 40 U/L
    Glucose 81 65 - 100 mg/dL
    BUN 18 10 - 25 mg/dL
    Creatinine 1.22 0.70 - 1.40 mg/dL
    Sodium 140 135 - 146 mmol/L
    Potassium 4.1 3.5 - 5.0 mmol/L
    Chloride 99 98 - 110 mmol/L
    CO2 30 23 - 32 mmol/L
    Anion Gap 11 0 - 15 mmol/L
    ALT 67 5 - 50 U/L



    i dont know if those r the ones that should be looked at let me know thx
    5 weeks into a cycle of prop your testosterone levels would be far higher then 370.....

    you've been injecting fake gear.. just oil or something for the last month and a bit bro.

    -VM

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    yup fake. find your source and get your money back

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_ron View Post
    You should have your Total testosterone levels + Free testosterone levels + FSH and LH levels also
    For sure those are needed....but he is 1 month or so into a cycle....with those levels his gear is fake and he needs to go see an endo to figure out his low test.....but again he needs to STOP USING THE FAKE GEAR!

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    refferene range is between 200 and 1000 and in the results all it says is testosterone and the numbers i gave. my ast is a little higher then it should be does that have anything to do with what ive been injecting

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    should i still pct or no need to sense my gear is obviously fake

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    Not sure what you have been injecting....probably just oil. AST is for liver function, etc. Here is a little AST knowledge:

    The blood test for aspartate aminotransferase (AST) is usually used to detect liver damage. It is often ordered in conjunction with another liver enzyme, alanine aminotransferase (ALT), or as part of a liver panel to screen for and/or help diagnose liver disorders. AST and ALT are considered to be two of the most important tests to detect liver injury, although ALT is more specific than AST. Sometimes AST is compared directly to ALT and an AST/ALT ratio is calculated. This ratio may be used to distinguish between different causes of liver damage.
    AST levels are often compared with results of other tests, such as alkaline phosphatase (ALP), total protein, and bilirubin to help determine which form of liver disease is present.

    AST is often measured to monitor treatment of persons with liver disease and may be ordered either by itself or along with other tests for this purpose.

    Sometimes AST may be used to monitor people who are taking medications that are potentially toxic to the liver. If AST levels increase, then the person may be switched to another medication

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    Quote Originally Posted by zokr9813 View Post
    should i still pct or no need to sense my gear is obviously fake
    NO PCT NEEDED!!! Time to get ahold of your source!

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    so what should i do now i have more gear on hand that i recently got from a legit source. should i wait a while before cycling again or go into it.

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    IMO.......you should go to an endo and see what is going on with your natural test levels being so low first. How old are you again?

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    25 years old

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    Quote Originally Posted by zokr9813 View Post
    25 years old
    Ok.....at that age your test levels should naturally be much higher. You REALLY need to have it checked out before you go on the new gear you got. If you do not you could be further damaging yourself and if you think your libido is low now wait to see what it is like after you screw yourself up! I am sure anyone here would give you the same advice. Best luck.

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    thx alot for the advice the doc wants to see me back in 2 weeks bc my ast was a little high so ill bring the low test ? up to him then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zokr9813 View Post
    thx alot for the advice the doc wants to see me back in 2 weeks bc my ast was a little high so ill bring the low test ? up to him then.
    Hope you liked the read i posted on AST.....good luck and keep us posted.
    I was wondering what was going on with your liver???

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    i don t know realyy could it be just multi vitimins or the amount of protein im taking in? is 43 really high?

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    and also what do u think the doc will say about my low test what do u think he will do about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zokr9813 View Post
    i don t know realyy could it be just multi vitimins or the amount of protein im taking in? is 43 really high?
    Normal range is 5-40. 43 is high, but not crazy high....some people with certain diseases reach the 1000's. It does not automatically mean you have liver disease......but is of concern. If there is muscle tissue damage in your body somewhere you could have an elevated AST. That is why a complete clinical overview of your health should be looked at by a DOC. so they can evaluate the ENTIRE picture. You obviously have some health issues going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zokr9813 View Post
    and also what do u think the doc will say about my low test what do u think he will do about it?
    Is it a normal doc or endo.....an endo would go deeper into it. I know of some doc's that i know personally that would if you wanted put you on 250 a week test e.......but like i said before.....your whole picture needs to be looked at.

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    he is just a normal doc. thx for all the help

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