today is the start of week 4 and I have

[littleriverman]

absolute no sides and pain???

I'm running:

tren a 75mg ed
testp 100mg ed
masteron e 200mg x2 ew
dbol 45mg ed



this is kind of starange I don't mind if I don't get them but it's really strange to have no sides at all, or is it to early?

I just don't know what's going on here because even my blood pressure has gone down from week 1 and some nights I sleep like a baby

I already have a very high libido so I can't use it as a guage
I sweat alot so I can't use this as a gauge
I have a really bad temper so I can't use this as a gauge either.

I should not have jump start this cycle with the dbol because I know the dbol are real, but is it possible the injectable aas just don't work on some people?

my body is changing and my strength is up significantly but its the dbol

[MACHINE5150]

cycle history???/ time since last cycle??? need to know these things

[big_ron]

No inject able AAS work on all people, others react different to most.
It could be possible that your other gear is fake, but after 4 week on test p and tren a i think results would be present.

[littleriverman]

4 cycles last one ending in march of this year

[Rex9933]

45mg dbol ? are those the famous 15mg tabs that everyone is using these days? lol.

[littleriverman]

ron the results are there but I'm crediting it to the dbol . the gear I know is legit because it came from a really good source that many know. it's only been 3 weeks and I'm a lot leaner and my strength is going through the roof but I'm 100 percent sure on the dbols.

[littleriverman]

no it's a combo of 2 brands 3 x10mg + 1 x 15 mg both brands are really good so I decide to run both

[Rex9933]

hit me back on the pm bud

[MACHINE5150]

i think it still takes a while for the test/tren to build in your system.. even though the halflife of test P is less than a week.. not sure what tren is but isn't tren a pretty lean bulk??? also, how can you say the gains are ALL from the DBol ??? just because ytou gained 20 lbs last time you took Dbol doesn't mean you will gain 20lbs this time..

[big_ron]

ron the results are there but I'm crediting it to the dbol. the gear I know is legit because it came from a really good source that many know. it's only been 3 weeks and I'm a lot leaner and my strength is going through the roof but I'm 100 percent sure on the dbols.

I think after 4 weeks the dbol would be starting to shut you down if the other gear was fake, but you still have a high sex drive so thats good news!
not sure if the dbol would lean you out man, so your gear is prob legit, could be under dosed tho.

[littleriverman]

i think it still takes a while for the test/tren to build in your system.. even though the halflife of test P is less than a week.. not sure what tren is but isn't tren a pretty lean bulk??? also, how can you say the gains are ALL from the DBol??? just because ytou gained 20 lbs last time you took Dbol doesn't mean you will gain 20lbs this time..

you do have a point last time I put on some good size from the dbol that why I was saying I should not have use the dbol as a jump because I'm running fast acting esters. now that I'm using the dbols I don't know what's kicking in and what's not

[big_ron]

i think it still takes a while for the test/tren to build in your system.. even though the halflife of test P is less than a week.. not sure what tren is but isn't tren a pretty lean bulk??? also, how can you say the gains are ALL from the DBol??? just because ytou gained 20 lbs last time you took Dbol doesn't mean you will gain 20lbs this time..

I start seeing gains after 2 weeks on test P, havnt run tren before so cant really comment, but by week 4 gains would deff be noticeable

[littleriverman]

I think after 4 weeks the dbol would be starting to shut you down if the other gear was fake, but you still have a high sex drive so thats good news!
not sure if the dbol would lean you out man, so your gear is prob legit, could be under dosed tho.

I'm running a well know lab from a very reliable source, so I don't think it's under dose. on many other boards this lab doesn't have any neg. feedback from anyone.

[big_ron]

Well it maybe that you are lucky and dont get bad sides from tren ...

[littleriverman]

Well it maybe that you are lucky and dont get bad sides from tren...

thanks Ron that's what I'm hoping it is I'm only 3 weeks in so only time will tell

[big_ron]

Yeah man just see how you go...

[stpete]

At 4 weeks into this cycle you should be seeing gains. Especially from the d-bol.
Let's start from the top...
Stats please: This includes,
Height
Weight
Age
Cycle Experience
Training Experience
Current diet if you choose

[JBarron]

I notice when running test-p I don't start "really feeling" it until week 5-6! I know it's kind of weird since it's short ester, but I really don't start feeling like an animal until it's week 5-6. I also don't get any atrophy until usually week 7-8, by then I'm feeling awesome tho, libido is up, strength is up, weight is up, and bodyfat is low!

hoo-rah for test prop!

[littleriverman]

At 4 weeks into this cycle you should be seeing gains. Especially from the d-bol.
Let's start from the top...
Stats please: This includes,
Height
Weight
Age
Cycle Experience
Training Experience
Curren

t diet if you choose

sorry for being unclear I'm actually on my 3rd week today marks start of week 4. I am seeing a huge difference in 3 weeks but I'm kind of crediting it to the dbol

Height 5' 11"
Weight 215
age 34
Cycle Experience 4 (1st one at 19 last one this past mar.)
Training Experience on and off since teens but serious in the last year and half. from aug 24 to jan. o4 of this year I drop over 90 lbs naturally.
Current diet if you choose :

meal one 1 cup of oats, 2 bananas, 8 egg whites, protein shake 18 grams
meal 2. 2 can of tuna with whole wheat breat no mayo just out of the can and a couple bananas
meal 3 2 chicken breat with 2 cups of brown rice with 3/4 cups of beans(red, black) and green beans,or corn, or sweet patatos
meal 4 same as 3

work out afer drink protein shake 35 g of protein
meal 5 8 oz turkey burger on whole wheat and some yuca
meal

meal 6 chicken breast, steak, or fish with brown rice and a lot of beans(with all meals)

before bed another protein shake

[JBarron]

sorry for being unclear I'm actually on my 3rd week today marks start of week 4. I am seeing a huge difference in 3 weeks but I'm kind of crediting it to the dbol

Height 5' 11"
Weight 215
age 34
Cycle Experience 4 (1st one at 19 last one this past mar.)
Training Experience on and off since teens but serious in the last year and half. from aug 24 to jan. o4 of this year I drop over 90 lbs naturally.
Current diet if you choose :

meal one 1 cup of oats, 2 bananas, 8 egg whites, protein shake 18 grams
meal 2. 2 can of tuna with whole wheat breat no mayo just out of the can and a couple bananas
meal 3 2 chicken breat with 2 cups of brown rice with 3/4 cups of beans(red, black) and green beans,or corn, or sweet patatos
meal 4 same as 3

work out afer drink protein shake 35 g of protein
meal 5 8 oz turkey burger on whole wheat and some yuca
meal

meal 6 chicken breast, steak, or fish with brown rice and a lot of beans(with all meals)

before bed another protein shake

Holy carbs batman lol

[Epic Ed]

What kind of pumps are you getting? If you have run dbol in a previous cycle, are your pumps greater now then they have been when running dbol without the tren ? How about dreams? Vivid? You say you're sleeping well, but are you sleeping short -- 4-5 hours and then wake up? Is your piss a lot darker/orange than usual despite drinking a good amount of water, especially the days you pin the tren?

With tren A you should definitely be feeling the effect at this stage. I was feeling it at week two on tren E.

[littleriverman]

my pumps are about the same as last cycle the only muscle group I really get a pump in is my biceps. I don't have dreams. If I ejaculate I sleep like a baby if I don't I wake up exactly 5 hours later. I drink about 1.5 to 2 gallons of water a day my piss is darker but I was thinking it was the dbol .

[Epic Ed]

**Without disclosing any lab name** have you done some research on the lab where it came from? Have you found anyone else who has complained about recent batches of gear from the lab in question? You might have bunk or under dosed gear. I have no idea where/how you acquired it, but it might be worthwhile to contact any support avenues you have for the lab to see if they have any input. I know that's not always an option but a lot of guys will work with you on hammering out that kind of stuff.

[floyderoid]

maybe drop the dbol and see how things go??

[littleriverman]

**Without disclosing any lab name** have you done some research on the lab where it came from? Have you found anyone else who has complained about recent batches of gear from the lab in question? You might have bunk or under dosed gear. I have no idea where/how you acquired it, but it might be worthwhile to contact any support avenues you have for the lab to see if they have any input. I know that's not always an option but a lot of guys will work with you on hammering out that kind of stuff.

it's a well know lab and other boards absolutely no bad reviews and the source is highly reliable. if you're similar with other boards he recently passed away. ox if you know what I mean

[littleriverman]

maybe drop the dbol and see how things go??

this is my last week with them

[Rex9933]

it's a well know lab and other boards absolutely no bad reviews and the source is highly reliable. if you're similar with other boards he recently passed away. ox if you know what I mean

i know exactly who that is. i dont think u should be worried bro. give it another week man

[The One]

i know exactly who that is. i dont think u should be worried bro. give it another week man

x2 he was a solid guy and the quality of his products were unmatched. not 1 neg feedback on that brand