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    AceOfSpadez is offline New Member
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    Exclamation Advanced Cutting Cycle Help?

    Age- 24
    Height - 173cm/5,8
    Weight - 85kg/188lbs
    Bodyfat - 17%
    Cycle Exp - 2

    First Cycle: Dbol 50mg - Test E 500mg - 12week
    Second Cycle: Dbol 50mg - Test E 500mg -Equpoise 500mg - 12week

    Over the past cycles i have Accuired alot of mass, alot of that mass was fat due to my nasty eating habits whilst bulking.

    I just want some feedback as to what people think of this cycle and if they think it will be safe and effective and ready to go... 6week cycle.

    Cutting Diet
    8am - Poridge Oats - 1Banana - Protein Shake.
    10am - Chicken, Jacket Potatoe, Apple
    12am - Chicken, Rice, Protein Shake
    3pm - Tuna Mayo, Brown Bread.
    5pm - Chicken, Rice, Vegetables
    8pm - Cottage Cheese, 1banana, Protein Shake
    10pm - Peanut Butter 35g, Mackeral.

    Training
    Mon - Chest/Triceps - 30minutes cardio
    Tue - Rest
    wed - Back/Biceps - 30minutes Cardio
    thu - Rest
    fri - Legs/Shoulders - 30minutes Cardio
    sat - Rest
    sun - Arms/Abs/Traps - 30minutes Cardio

    Cycle
    Day 1 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 40mcg / T3 50mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day 2 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 40mcg / T3 50mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day 3 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day 4 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day 5 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day 6 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day 7 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day 8 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day 9 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day10 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day11 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day12 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day13 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day14 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day15 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day16 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day17 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day18 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day19 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day20 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day21 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day22 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day23 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day24 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day25 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day26 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day27 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 125mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day28 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 100mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day29 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day30 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day31 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day32 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day33 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day34 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day35 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day36 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 50mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day37 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 50mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day38 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 25mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day39 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 25mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day40 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 25mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day41 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 25mcg / Nolvadex 20mg
    Day42 Prop 100mg / Winstrol 50mg / Clen off / T3 25mcg / Nolvadex 20mg

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    why run Nolva all the way through your cycle. Especially at 20mg? Are you that prone to gyno? Winny isn't going to cut fat off of you. You won't see any physical changes from winny unless you're around 10%bf or less.

    100mg of prop a day is way more than you need to cut and more than you need to keep muscle on t3/clen . 50 would be plenty IMHO. Have you considered running an AI instead of nolva? Or even running the nolva lower. 5 or 10 mg?

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    AceOfSpadez is offline New Member
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    Nolva helps your colestrol HDL- LDL and since im running winstrol it has a really negative effect on your lipid profiles... so in conjunction with an estrogen like nolva it would help against the nasty sides of winstrol. OH and my bad, i plan on running Prop at 100mg EOD, my bad it took while to write out that cycle and i forgot to place it EOD

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    Also the reason im using Winstrol is to help prevent the loss of muscle... i don't believe that 100mgs of prop EOD will do it alone... and i want to hold onto as much muscle as possible... Oh and as for the winstrol not being able to cut fat i disagree? its been shown in studies to help aid fatloss as it increases the body thermogenic causing lyposis so it will help in conjunction with the other 3compounds, if im correct.

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    Clen is also good for keeping you anabolic . I'm running test 300/deca 300 with t3 later in the year as a cutter. I dont' think the winny is nessesary, but if you must then you probably wanna run liver support. And maybe the nolva at 10mg a day. And durring your time off from clen you should be taking either bennydryl or liquid keto to help restore your beta receptors to make your clen work better when you go back on

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    Apart of me agrees with you.... its just i dunno what else to run besides winstrol ... and i have benadryl in check so no worries. do you know any alternatives which i could use instead of winstrol? which would help keep a hold of my lean mass with out wasting?? Oh and as for clenbuterol ... its a big debate on weather or not its able to be Anti-catabolic or Catabolic.... since it can cause anxiety i'd probz go with Catabolic as it causes anxiety and anxiousness, i don't believe that its a muscle builder..

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