Anyone ran test e and test p together

**Techart** · 10-20-2010, 04:20 PM

Has anyone run test e and test p together in a cycle. Something like 400mg of test e a week and 100mg of test p eod on a 12 week cycle. What would you recomend for pct after.

Stats 182 lbs 5'10 Age 24

**themoreyouknow** · 10-20-2010, 04:52 PM

You could front load with prop but I see no need to run it all the way through if you are already running test e..imo.

**stpete** · 10-20-2010, 05:57 PM

Why would i? I use them for different reasons. Specifically, i use test e when i want to bulk, and prop when i want to cut. It works really well for me. But to have 2 tests going thru me at the same time doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

**vaders4** · 10-20-2010, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

Why would i? I use them for different reasons. Specifically, i use test e when i want to bulk, and prop when i want to cut. It works really well for me. But to have 2 tests going thru me at the same time doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Sust is 4 different types of test, I think one of them being prop?

**big_ron** · 10-20-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by vaders4

Sust is 4 different types of test, I think one of them being prop?

Correct

**big_ron** · 10-20-2010, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Techart

Has anyone run test e and test p together in a cycle. Something like 400mg of test e a week and 100mg of test p eod on a 12 week cycle. What would you recomend for pct after.

Stats 182 lbs 5'10 Age 24

People as stated can front load with prop because it kicks in alot quicker, its really up to you, i think test p is better because of the quick kick in time, but pinning EOD or ED is the downside which i dont mind.

Its personal choice at the end of the day test is test. have you only enough gear for 400mg of test e and you have prop to make up other 100mg?

Pct i recommend

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

**Fit N Fun** · 10-21-2010, 12:07 AM

Am working on a spreadsheet to calculate how to front load, you don't always need Test Prop, to get your hit early.

Here is one option

**Fit N Fun** · 10-21-2010, 03:23 AM

Added a Test E column to my spreadsheet.

Here is what you are delivering to your body every day with the Test E and Test P stack you were considering

IMHO, it's not a very balanced delivery of Testosterone over the length of your cycle

**stevey_6t9** · 10-21-2010, 03:26 AM

i did a prop kick start with my test cycle. bad mistake imo, ended up being 900mg of test for the first 4 weeks, got fukloads of acne and sides from that dose.

**Fit N Fun** · 10-21-2010, 04:36 AM

Stevey,

Tell me what your cycle was and I will do a graph to show the delivery of test into your system and maybe you will be able to relate that to when the Acne started

**Fit N Fun** · 10-21-2010, 06:31 AM

Techart

Here is something for you to consider that is far fewer injections and delivers a good balanced delivery of Test into your body using only Test E

Output is prepared using 250 mg Test E per ml

Injections are :-

2.5 ml on day 1
1.3 ml on day 2
1m every 5th day thereafter

You could use your Test P to flatten out the line a little more, I will see what that might look like.

**codeegee** · 10-21-2010, 06:49 AM

I feel like I'm in math 10 again... lol.

**stevey_6t9** · 10-21-2010, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Fit N Fun

Stevey,

Tell me what your cycle was and I will do a graph to show the delivery of test into your system and maybe you will be able to relate that to when the Acne started

it was;

test p 100mg eod wks 1-4
test cyp 500mg wk 1-12

and acne started wk 4-5

**Fit N Fun** · 10-21-2010, 07:37 AM

Techart

I have taken a look at what you could consider to deliver a good steady Test level throughout and create the minimum time to start PCT

Rather than type out the timings, I have copied them as they appear in my spreadsheet.

The dates are in UK format day.month.year

**Brewster** · 10-21-2010, 07:46 AM

lol,
what is it with all of these charts?

**Brewster** · 10-21-2010, 07:48 AM

I want one too

Test E Wk 1-14 500mg/week
Test E Wk 14-16 250mg/week
Deca Wk 1-12 400mg/week

D bol 45mg x 25 days

Hcg e3.5 days Wk 4-16

Chart Me!!

**Fit N Fun** · 10-21-2010, 08:23 AM

Stevey,

Here is what your stack was delivering to you each day.

**Fit N Fun** · 10-21-2010, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Brewster

I want one too

Test E Wk 1-14 500mg/week
Test E Wk 14-16 250mg/week
Deca Wk 1-12 400mg/week

D bol 45mg x 25 days

Hcg e3.5 days Wk 4-16

Chart Me!!

Brewster,

Rather than continue to crap all over Techarts thread, I have a thread I started on the reason for the spreadsheet and will answer your question there.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...d-start-of-PCT

**Techart** · 10-21-2010, 08:33 PM

So what's best just test e or test p on it's own or what could I mix to give better results.

**stevey_6t9** · 10-21-2010, 09:22 PM

either one or another on its own imo. if you want them two get sust.

**Maxpower_sf1** · 10-21-2010, 11:52 PM

I am taking sustaplex 325 for my first cycle has a couple different types of test. cant wait to start gonna inject 2-3 times a week cause of the prop

**Fit N Fun** · 10-22-2010, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Techart

So what's best just test e or test p on it's own or what could I mix to give better results.

I posted this chart above to show you how to optimise your stack.

In case you are missing the point.

The perfect stack would deliver the same amount of test every day so that when it's over you can start PCT the following day, however because of the decay time of the esters, this is not possible, with some having a half life up to 15 days.

The plan I put together for you, has a mix of Test E and Test P and get's about as close to that as you can get.

**Sicko** · 10-22-2010, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Maxpower_sf1

I am taking sustaplex 325 for my first cycle has a couple different types of test. cant wait to start gonna inject 2-3 times a week cause of the prop

I think you will find that most people will tell you there is no "real" advantage to pinnin more than twice a week for the benifit of prop being in the mix.Unless you are pinnin prop solo that is.

***D7M*** · 10-22-2010, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Maxpower_sf1

I am taking sustaplex 325 for my first cycle has a couple different types of test. cant wait to start gonna inject 2-3 times a week cause of the prop

Read the link in my sig on again, bro.

Originally Posted by Sicko

I think you will find that most people will tell you there is no "real" advantage to pinnin more than twice a week for the benifit of prop being in the mix.Unless you are pinnin prop solo that is.

You're exactly right.