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    Test Cypionate Cycle starting in 1 week

    HI there,
    Noob to this great forum so thanks for having me.

    Ok so heres the story.

    Me:
    Age: 24
    BF%: 16
    Weight: 238 lbs
    Height: 6”3’
    Lifting: 4.5 years
    Dieting: 1.5 years
    Smoke: No
    Drink: No

    My mate:
    Age: 25
    BF%: 12
    Weight: 160 lbs
    Height: 5”11’
    Lifting: 2.5 years
    Dieting: 0 years
    Smoke: No
    Drink: Occasional

    Just ordered some Test Cyp. Going to run our first cycle so very excited.
    I am planning on running 400 mcg – 1 shot/week for 11 weeks.
    My mate is running 300 mcg – 1 shot/week for 10 weeks.

    Currently have 30 tabs (20mg) of Nolvadex each, on hand and for PCT.
    Also 3000ui of HCG each, planning on running 2x250ui/week starting week 7 (for me) and week 6 (for my mate) through to 2 weeks after our last shot.
    (I figured this as Cypionate has a 14 day life therefore it will still be effective 2 weeks post cycle)

    PCT: 2 weeks post cycle – ( both of us)
    Week 1: 20 mg Nolva ED
    Week 2: 40 mg Novla ED
    Week 3: 20 mg Nolva ED
    + will be running ‘Jungle Warfare’ by ALR after PCT.

    So how does that shape up guys, anything i should re think?

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    I don't know anything about AAS, but I have done some PH's, including Mdrol. If I'm not mistaken, Jungle Warfare will require it's own PCT and I think I remember hearing people complaining about gyno from that. Like I said, I could be wrong, just trying to give you the heads up to check into it. Good luck man.

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    hey there thanks for the reply!

    Im located in australia and as far as i know the Jungle Warfare over here isn't as potent as other Jungle Warfares abroad.
    I figured its just a good natural test booster. Ive been using it for about 3 weeks and the only noticable change was some fat loss. No signs of gyno or any other side.
    Thanks for the heads up anyhow, ill decide towards the end of my cycle about JW, probably best to save my money!

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    You are on the cusp of the age where steroid use is considered acceptable on this board
    You seem to have a solid base to work off of based on your stats, your mate on the other hand is light for his height and not training long enough.
    Now about test cyp..400mg a week is a good start but ideally shot 2x per week say every 3.5 days
    Your pct...to light not enough nova and no mention of clomid...read the pct stickies get more educated
    Hcg is not needed but it's personal choice dose 250ui 2x pw throughout
    More research is needed before cycle
    Welcome to the forum and keep reading

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    You are on the cusp of the age where steroid use is considered acceptable on this board
    You seem to have a solid base to work off of based on your stats, your mate on the other hand is light for his height and not training long enough.
    Now about test cyp..400mg a week is a good start but ideally shot 2x per week say every 3.5 days
    Your pct...to light not enough nova and no mention of clomid...read the pct stickies get more educated
    Hcg is not needed but it's personal choice dose 250ui 2x pw throughout
    More research is needed before cycle
    Welcome to the forum and keep reading
    x2.

    weak pct and drop the jungle warfare

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    You are on the cusp of the age where steroid use is considered acceptable on this board
    You seem to have a solid base to work off of based on your stats, your mate on the other hand is light for his height and not training long enough.
    Now about test cyp..400mg a week is a good start but ideally shot 2x per week say every 3.5 days
    Your pct...to light not enough nova and no mention of clomid...read the pct stickies get more educated
    Hcg is not needed but it's personal choice dose 250ui 2x pw throughout
    More research is needed before cycle
    Welcome to the forum and keep reading
    Quote Originally Posted by themoreyouknow View Post
    x2.

    weak pct and drop the jungle warfare
    I have been reading for at least a year now, got a few books but mainly online.
    I felt like i started to read too much though as i was reading too many conflicting posts and opinions from articles and neighbouring forums.
    I started getting confused so i decided to just revert back to a very simple first cycle with no stacking and mild dosage for my body weight.
    I chose test cyp because of its 1 shot/week properties. Im not ashamed to admit im nervous about self injecting, hence the choice to use cyp.

    Now my PCT should include clomid? Not doubting the knowledge of anyone here, but once again ive read many debating articles 'Clomid V Nolva' and my understanding was that idealy you should use both but alot say you could choose either for PCT and its fine. Getting clomid is not a problem and if you guys reccomend throwing it in the mix i will do so.
    Also im assuming that i should up the dosage of Nolva throught PCT?
    I will scrap the JW.

    Your guidance is much appreciated guys.

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    I agree the cyp should be pinned twice a week. I would recommend 200mg monday night injection and then a 200mg friday morning injection

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    cyp should be done two times a week.. i am assuming you mean mg not mcg.. you are doing a small enough cycle that you will not need any AI's.. as for the PCT. .add clomid ontop of the nolvadex .. and HCG should be taken at 250iu 2x a week through out the whole cycle.. or blasted at the end at like 5000iu then 3-5days later 3000iu.. then 3-5days later 1000-2000iu's (or something along those lines) doing 250iu 2x a week at the end of your cycle would not be enoguh as your natural levels will be too shot after 6-8 weeks.. xo get more HCG or just blast it as proposed at the end of your cycle (start one or two weeks after last injection)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE5150 View Post
    cyp should be done two times a week.. i am assuming you mean mg not mcg.. you are doing a small enough cycle that you will not need any AI's.. as for the PCT. .add clomid ontop of the nolvadex.. and HCG should be taken at 250iu 2x a week through out the whole cycle.. or blasted at the end at like 5000iu then 3-5days later 3000iu.. then 3-5days later 1000-2000iu's (or something along those lines) doing 250iu 2x a week at the end of your cycle would not be enoguh as your natural levels will be too shot after 6-8 weeks.. xo get more HCG or just blast it as proposed at the end of your cycle (start one or two weeks after last injection)
    No problem. I will throw clomid in for sure
    To minimise injections (as its my first cycle) i might take the risk and blast the HCG like you said, during PCT.
    So my HCG doseage should look something like this:
    PCT Day 1: 5000ui
    PCT Day 5: 3000ui
    PCT Day 10: 2000ui

    or can i still blast it but spread it out a little bit more eg:

    PCT Day 1: 3000ui
    PCT Day 5: 2000ui
    PCT Day 10: 2000ui
    PCT Day 15: 2000ui
    PCT Day 20: 1000ui

    Appologies if that looks retarded just thought id ask.

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