Q's about TEST E

[dtorres28]

I will be getting my hands on Test E beginning in january (6wks of it i believe) and i need some advice as to if there is anything i need to take before/with/after it, and if it is ok to take other supplements, with it primarily protein? I have only done research on this site referring to Test E and other gear, but any info would be much appreciated.

[D7M]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat?
years training?

[dtorres28]

23
6'/280
BF?
Training for 5+ years, not a stranger to the weight room, i initially was going to cut down to 250 before i start cycle any thoughts on that.
BP: 365
SQ: 475
PC: 270
DL: 500
225-22reps

[D7M]

6ft and 280lbs?

Any guesses on body fat?

Big difference between 6, 280lbs at 12% or 25%

[dtorres28]

21% i believe last time i checked accurately. What is your opinion on me cutting down to 250 before i start?

[DCannon]

I'd suggest cutting down first to minimize the sides.

Also, 6 weeks isn't very long for Test E, you'll just be feeling it kick in by then. 10 weeks would be better.

[Brewster]

21% i believe last time i checked accurately. What is your opinion on me cutting down to 250 before i start?

IMHO
Naturally get down to 10-14%
It will take you 2 years.
Then you will be in prime position for a cycle.
and you will be glad you took this route

[dtorres28]

I could easily get more to complete a 10wk cycle, fill me in on what you mean to minimize the sides? Also I have read that either the longer you take it or the more dosage increases chances of baldness...etc..? idk just saying.

[dtorres28]

Brewster..i love the opinions dont have to be shy with them lol, next football season will be my last in D3, i am only taking this in the spring semester jan-may,

[dtorres28]

Why is it that all the members attack all the new threads, post a couple of times and leave?

[yungone501]

Generally speaking, the higher the bodyfat percentage, the more prone you at experiencing side effects. This is why u must lose the fat first. Some side effects are permanent or long lasting...anyhow, i would run 500/mg for a minimum of 8wks. That is pretty much protocol on first timers. Do no increase dosages at all, 500mg all the way through. Good luck.

[dtorres28]

yungone i appreaciate that, idk if u understand that i am going to cut down to 250, but i dont want to go under that, is there anything that i need to take after the cycle, i have been reading PCT, thoughts?

[Brewster]

Why is it that all the members attack all the new threads, post a couple of times and leave?

Sorry man,
I have stuff to do.
I cant sit around all day and respond immediatly to your response.

if YOUR NOT going pro, Take the advice I stated earlier.

If you have a chance to go pro DO not listen to yungone501.
You are looking to do a 10 - 12 week cycle of Test E or C. With adex or exe.


I CANT STRESS ENOUGH: ONLY IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING WITH FOOTBALL GO ON A CYCLE... OTHERWISE AT YOUR BF% YOUR GOING TO BE RUNNING TOO MANY RISKS

[yungone501]

Yes, for sure run a pct! This is not my area, i would suggest reading the stickys in the pct forum and if u have further questions, post a thread. This is the most crucial point of any/every cycle. Pct determines if you keep or lose your gains. You seem to be eager in learning which is good because u wanna make sure u have every angle in perspective. I approached my first cycle very blindly and suffered all the consequences.

[yungone501]

Im sorry brewster, did i give ill advice?

[Brewster]

^Minimum 8 weeks is ill advised IMO
Minimum 10 weeks of Test E or C for first cycle

[yungone501]

"IMO" is what i thought u would say. Numerous studies show (and my experience) growth falls after 8 wks unless dosage is increased...which is something a first timer should not do.

[Brewster]

^
Interesting b.c in my exp and the exp of others. I have continued to gain after 8 weeks and in your first cycle its good for there to be a small period where your test levels are still elevated and your body has a chance to adjust to its new size.

I understand what you are saying. In my second cycle I did exp what you are describing. But I did not in my first cycle. I think that the first cycle is the most important. (I wasted mine Im not going to lie)

Im not going to argue studies b.c im sure there are studies showing we are both right.... Just like some studies say to PCT with HCG and some say to use HCG on cycle.

[yungone501]

Okay, i can agree with that only because everyone is different and results vary from one person to the next. Case settled.

[Brewster]

boom

[dtorres28]

brewster what kind of lasting or life long side effects are you talking about?

[yungone501]

Generally speaking, the higher the bodyfat percentage, the more prone you at experiencing side effects. This is why u must lose the fat first. Some side effects are permanent or long lasting...anyhow, i would run 500/mg for a minimum of 8wks. That is pretty much protocol on first timers. Do no increase dosages at all, 500mg all the way through. Good luck.

dtorres, im the one who mentioned this. Well, lets see here, MPB (baldness), impotentcy, crushed libido, increased hair growth (speed and body coverage), enlarged prostate, shrunken nutsack, heart/liver damage, etc... Given, all the things arent sure to happen and if they do, most are not permanent but these sides must be constantly assessed and treated if you begin to experience them. I am NOT trying to scare you (or anyone else) but they are very real indeed. Some people are more prone to certain sides then others. Some experience none of them. And some experience all. Its something that all AAS users battle or fear. There is a price to play at EVERY game...this game can be fierce though.

[dtorres28]

yungone do you have alot of experience with juice...if so can we talk.

[yungone501]

I dont consider myself a vet/pro but i do carry pretty extensive knowledge. I will not answer questions i do not know.

And as far as literal experience goes, ive done 5 cycles.

[anabolicextreme]

High body fat has a direct effect on aromatase