Endurance/Military Athlete

**jpluncford21** · 12-15-2010, 11:21 AM

Before I ask my question I guess I can give you a little background about myself: I'm a 25 yo male, in good shape. About 5'10 and 180 lbs. I have a contract to try out for USAF special operations in April and have been working off of the website www.sealfit.com (if you think youre in shape, check it out

) for about a year now.... This is my question

Doing two/three a days with this workload being one aspect of my workout is wearing on me. I have been thinking about doing a cycle or two of something, but I have no idea where to start. What I need is something that can help boost my strength and recovery while at the same time NOT hindering my aerobic or anaerobic endurance. I take protein and glutamine at the moment, but was hoping someone could point me in the direction of something a little more potent, or if someone is in the same situation and what you may be using. I've seen the profile pages, but I don't even know where to start with that and any search I do basically leads me to blood doping in cycling. Any suggestions or help is much appreciated.

Thanks guys
Joseph

**songdog** · 12-15-2010, 11:42 AM

if you were looking for strength.Checkout the 5x5 routine it will beef you up quick.

**Johnyonemove** · 12-15-2010, 02:55 PM

If you're looking for just strength, recovery and NO BULK then I would say Anavar at a high dose 80-100mgs per day split in half taken 12 hours apart for 8-10 weeks then a solid PCT. time off and repeat. Remember to take some milk thistle for good measure.

**Skyler** · 12-15-2010, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by jpluncford21

Before I ask my question I guess I can give you a little background about myself: I'm a 25 yo male, in good shape. About 5'10 and 180 lbs. I have a contract to try out for USAF special operations in April and have been working off of the website www.sealfit.com (if you think youre in shape, check it out) for about a year now.... This is my question

Doing two/three a days with this workload being one aspect of my workout is wearing on me. I have been thinking about doing a cycle or two of something, but I have no idea where to start. What I need is something that can help boost my strength and recovery while at the same time NOT hindering my aerobic or anaerobic endurance. I take protein and glutamine at the moment, but was hoping someone could point me in the direction of something a little more potent, or if someone is in the same situation and what you may be using. I've seen the profile pages, but I don't even know where to start with that and any search I do basically leads me to blood doping in cycling. Any suggestions or help is much appreciated.

Thanks guys
Joseph

Edit*** Uncalled for, I apologize***

***D7M*** · 12-15-2010, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Skyler

Retard...

Last I checked this was a no-flaming board.

why don't you edit your post, please.

**Skyler** · 12-15-2010, 03:05 PM

Not trying to sway this thread in the wrong way, I apologize once more.

***D7M*** · 12-15-2010, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Skyler

Sorry, I believe in free speech, I will take recourse for my post before I give up my right to speak freely

I can have that arranged for you.

There's no unlimited free speech.

You forfeited that right when you agreed to the board rules (including no flaming, no listing labs, etc.)

**voidofRoids** · 12-15-2010, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Skyler

Sorry, I believe in free speech, I will take recourse for my post before I give up my right to speak freely

Curious what you think is retarded about military standard physical training?

**Far from massive** · 12-15-2010, 03:20 PM

I don't think any steroid will benifit you for what you are trying to achieve (unless you can take them while doing your try out) whenever you use steroids and stop you have to "pay the piper" that is your body needs to readjust its body chemistry back to baseline. For bodybuilders this is no problem you use steroids to make gains then when you stop all you need to do is to hang on to a portion of those gains till you have returned to baseline then you have gained overall. This is not the case when you need to increase your complete physiological self on a continual basis, 90% of what is required in this type of endevour is the ability to recover rapidly from intense fatigue ( that is to say a lot of guys could complete a few hours or a day of this but a week mission forget it) the same thing holds true in any endurance sports like cycling (which I did about a thousand years ago) anyone could ride 10 minutes in the tour de france riding a day well thats different so unless you intend to use AAS while competing the benifits are outwieghed by the loss in training time during recovery from cycles so that taking them months prior to an event is not productive.

I assume in this type of military endeavor that drug testing is not unusual but I really don't know, if its not then yeah there are a lot of compounds you can use both beforehand and during the qualifications (try out) to enhance your ability and recovery but I am certainly not the person to make reccomendations on what you should use if that is the case, I would however make real sure that you will not be tested before considering any kind of substance as nothing would be worse than jeopardizing your military career for something like this.

**Skyler** · 12-15-2010, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by voidofRoids

Curious what you think is retarded about military standard physical training?

Because I am in the military and I know the standards very well, and how they have nothing to do with being "in shape". I'm a champion powerlifter and now a competitive bodybuilder and I have never maxed my PT test. I know several soldiers who are overweight or out of shape that can score as good as me or better on a PT test though. That's like saying that because Jay Cutler is Mr.Olympia he should be able to win the tour de france, and Lance Armstrong should also be able to win the Olympia, just because they are both "good athletes" in their sports. Not being good at a particular type of training or event has nothing to do with being in shape or not. Talk to a military man though, and they will tell you that they are top notch athletes because they can do X amount of pushups, situps, and run 2 miles within a certain time. I get tired of hearing that same thing all the time.

**Far from massive** · 12-15-2010, 03:25 PM

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**MACHINE5150** · 12-15-2010, 03:26 PM

i would suggest you stay away from steroids ... they mess with your endurance.. when i am on cycle i have a hard time keeping up on the rugby pitch. I would recomend creatine for what you are looking for.. it is legal, cheap and widely used.. it gives you a bout 5-7% strength increase, you gain a couple pounds and it helps with endurance as well.. I suppose you could do Anavar as suggested.. but in all honesty you will crash at the end of it and unless you want to be on it while you are doing the test i do not see the point.

**voidofRoids** · 12-15-2010, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Skyler

Because I am in the military and I know the standards very well, and how they have nothing to do with being "in shape". I'm a champion powerlifter and now a competitive bodybuilder and I have never maxed my PT test. I know several soldiers who are overweight or out of shape that can score as good as me or better on a PT test though. That's like saying that because Jay Cutler is Mr.Olympia he should be able to win the tour de france, and Lance Armstrong should also be able to win the Olympia, just because they are both "good athletes" in their sports. Not being good at a particular type of training or event has nothing to do with being in shape or not. Talk to a military man though, and they will tell you that they are top notch athletes because they can do X amount of pushups, situps, and run 2 miles within a certain time. I get tired of hearing that same thing all the time.

I am in the military as well and can blatantly see the differences between bodybuilding and military standard pt. The difference is obviously the practicality, and if you think you are in shape and want to test your limits, military pt is a good bet. Bodybuilding is a completely different beast; what is your opinion on what "in shape" is? If it is muscle endurance and cardiovascular health I'd say military pt is a good test. If it is muscle size, development, shape, etc. then you're opinion may differ. But neither opinion is retarded... they are just opinions.

And if you are tired of it all the time, maybe you need a new career?

**songdog** · 12-15-2010, 06:48 PM

bump on the new career.The miltartys pt serves its purpose.

**voidofRoids** · 12-15-2010, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by songdog

bump on the new career.The miltartys pt serves its purpose.

Indeed. Might not be conducive of muscular development. But assuming you aren't a clerk and actually get out in the shit, you'd appreciate the benefits of it. I know better cardio would do wonders for me.

**jpluncford21** · 12-19-2010, 02:42 AM

Wow....just wow guys...

Thanks to the two or three of you that were able to focus and give me some advice. It was a little tough to pick the advice with substance out of all the trash, but again thank you.