over priced? new to this.

**norburt** · 12-17-2010, 04:42 AM

first post here guys be easy on me. just a quick question. my co worker says he can get me started on anabolic steroids . he said that i should start with test 400 and tren . I'm researching everything before i step into it. he says it injected once a week and the other supplement is like every othr day. I'd appreciate any helpful feedback. and if you suggest going with something else for a start possible point me in the correct direction. thanks happy holidays.

**redz** · 12-17-2010, 04:43 AM

Read the rules no price discussion.

**sleep.eat.train** · 12-17-2010, 04:45 AM

Edit out the price. Test alone is all you need for first cycle.

**Brewster** · 12-17-2010, 04:47 AM

FEed back,
Edit your post.. no price talk

Horrible first cycle... stick around here for a while and learn a bit

**MBMETC** · 12-17-2010, 04:51 AM

HOWS ABOUT PROVIDING US WITH STATS
age
weight
height
bf%
yrs training
goals for this cycle

**norburt** · 12-17-2010, 04:59 AM

age: 25
weight: 200
height: 5'11
bf%14ish
years training: 3
goals: gain as much muscle as possible

**Bulkn** · 12-17-2010, 05:14 AM

Test only for beginners, tren is for advanced users.
Start with test, 500mg/week, make sure u have EVERYTHING Inc all PCT before u start!!

**songdog** · 12-17-2010, 10:49 AM

bump on the test only

**Far from massive** · 12-17-2010, 02:33 PM

You should have great gains on anywhere from 400-500 test on your first cycle, no need for another compound and you damn sure want to stay away from tren for a while.

Oh yeah and stay clear of the coworker, even if you ignore him on cycle advice he will probably be trying to get you to do drop sets and forced negatives on squats...

**norburt** · 12-18-2010, 04:57 AM

thanks for the replies. any feed back on what the post cycle would include. what to take ect.

**LGM** · 12-18-2010, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by norburt

thanks for the replies. any feed back on what the post cycle would include. what to take ect.

Read the PCT forum, specifically, most of the threads by Swifto. Tons of great info here, you just gotta read. Check out the steriod profiles page as well.

**norburt** · 12-18-2010, 05:29 AM

will do. i am reading all the stickies for pct now. thanks for that lgm. also is there anything i should have with me while doing my first cylce of test 400. incase of side effects. thanks

**kleaver** · 12-18-2010, 07:13 AM

id be careful taking advice from a friend on cycles. by all means use them as a source, but chances are they aren't as informed as you COULD be. read up, learn what is best for YOUR body-life-career-whatever you're using aas for, and then take the source and do it your way. jmho

**cro** · 12-18-2010, 10:25 AM

i agree with that . this site is the best tool by far.

Originally Posted by kleaver

id be careful taking advice from a friend on cycles. by all means use them as a source, but chances are they aren't as informed as you COULD be. read up, learn what is best for YOUR body-life-career-whatever you're using aas for, and then take the source and do it your way. jmho

**Tigershark** · 12-18-2010, 10:57 AM

No prices man.

**Far from massive** · 12-18-2010, 11:13 AM

As to your question on what to purchase now for during the cycle, you want to have an AI on hand for sure. Lots of people will knock me for this but I use L-Dex as its a type one AI and not as severe as extremasane which is a type II AI , It has always worked fine for me while on cycle and does not crush estro completely as others do so I am able to control sides without crushing estro and killing gains.

As I say this is my opinion, its not right or wrong..just what works well for me. However you should have some type of AI on hand for your first cycle of test, read about them in the PCT section and listen to others feedback and then decide which one to choose.

Best wishes,

FFM

Footnote,
Kleavers comment about they aren't as well informed about AAS as you could be is right on time.

**Solidarity** · 12-18-2010, 11:24 AM

You do not need tren for your first cycle. There is a certain amount of keepable gains you are able to achieve in a giving amount of time. Adding tren to your first cycle will not allow you to gain and keep much more than a straight test cycle. On top of that it is a nasty compound and I would never suggest it for a first cycle, not even a second or third cycle.

I would suggest adding tren only after you have used other compounds such as dbol , deca , drol, mast, eq etc. If you can handle those compounds then you have a good chance to handle tren because with tren you are going to experience all the sides associated with the other compounds.

With that being said I also don't really agree with the whole "Test Only" cycle for beginners, I believe in adding an oral towards the end of your cycle. By that time you already know how you react to test and any sides can directly be attributed to that newly introduced compound.