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    Slayer of Souls is offline Junior Member
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    Test E/ Deca Lean Bulk

    Stats: 5'9', 200lbs 24 years. (Pics already posted)
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Too-Much-Bloat

    Was going to go with Test/EQ for this lean bulk cycle. I dont trust the local sources that provide EQ. Much safer for me to go with pharama grade gear directly from the pharmacy.

    Planning on running
    Test E 750mg/ week 1-14weeks (Pin 250 on M-W-F)
    Deca 400mg/week 1-12weeks (Pin 200mg M-F)
    Dbol 40mg/day 4 weeks.
    A.dex .5mg EOD

    PCT Week 16-20Nolva 40/40/20/20


    Goal is to keep this simple. Should I front load with test prop?

    Adex dose alright?

    I need to keep water bloat to a minimum, I know diet is key. My salt intake is minimal, never used adex before.

    I normally keep a bulking diet, but during this cycle I want to keep it tight with cardio 4x a week. Not trying to cut/bulk at the same time, but doing a bit of recomposition. Training style will be more bbing focused and lest power lifting focused. Would like to see how my body responds.

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    Theoretically you can "lean bulk" with most any compounds.
    That being said, Test Deca & Dbol would probably be one of the most difficult combinations to "lean bulk" with.
    The only common oral that causes more water weight than dbol would of course be drol.
    IMO the term "lean bulk" is kind of an oxymoron.
    Lets put it this way, most pros, just plain bulk and then cut when preparing for their next contest.
    Perhaps they are onto something ?

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    I don't know about how lean that will get you but at 750mg test and 400mg deca you should see some nice gains! Maybe consider adding some winny the last 6 weeks of the cycle to reduce the water retention? Just a suggestion

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    Thats the approach I have done in the past. Have gone on an all out bulking from 200 to 225. This time I want to keep it tight. I guess I have to see how my body responds and always adjust from there. I cant plan everything out

    Over all, does the cycle look fine?


    Quote Originally Posted by eGGz View Post
    Theoretically you can "lean bulk" with most any compounds.
    That being said, Test Deca & Dbol would probably be one of the most difficult combinations to "lean bulk" with.
    The only common oral that causes more water weight than dbol would of course be drol.
    IMO the term "lean bulk" is kind of an oxymoron.
    Lets put it this way, most pros, just plain bulk and then cut when preparing for their next contest.
    Perhaps they are onto something ?

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    When running deca , I would suggest some caber or prami on hand.
    PCT may require clomid as well as nolva.
    Do you plan to use hcg during your cycle?

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    Can pick that up at the pharmacy. Living at home, so storage would be a pain. HCG , Nolva, Clomid all available at the pharm.

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    I don't know where you live (ambient temps) but assuming you have a car, storage of the HCG would not be that tough particularly this time of year. I have a guy I know in a simalar situation (his GF does not know about his AAS usage) I made him a little block of styrofoam that holds the HCG serum vial and 2 pounds of copper wire by putting this inside a cooler and dependent on the average temp outside either using ice in the cooler of just leaving it empty the temp of the HCG is maintained pretty evenly since the mass of the copper wire and the insulation of the styrofoam block keep it removed from any temperature swings within the cooler as the ice melts or ambient temps go below freezing at night.

    PS You got a hell of a pharmacy!!

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    you can buy HCG , Nolva and Clomid at a pharmacy without a prescription? I never new that, I'm newbie but that never occurred to me..

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    In the desert. Storing in the car wont be possible.

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    How does everything else look? Prop for a kick start along with dbol , or just stick to the dbols

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    Quote Originally Posted by renjr70 View Post
    you can buy HCG, Nolva and Clomid at a pharmacy without a prescription? I never new that, I'm newbie but that never occurred to me..
    No.
    The OP is clearly not in the US.

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    Honestly man, with dbol it may be frustrating to try to stay tight. For me atleast, dbol makes me hold a lot of water! I tried using it once during a cut so that I could stay full,vascular, and maintain size. I ended up just getting frustrated and dropping it because of the water! Maybe kick the cycle with JUST test prop. Just my opinion.

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