First cycle, Miss anything? Any surprises to expect?

**Lynx331** · 01-05-2011, 12:46 AM

I've decided to go ahead and do a cycle, thank you all for your time and information on this forum. Provided I don't Whimp out..

Im going to run Andropen 275 (rec by a friend) for 12 weeks
I'm not asking to be spoon fed here, but from the info I have found.. They want you up 500mgs plus with this. My main question is this... If I ran 1/2 cc twice a week.. Would this be a waste? Thus being 275mg total for the week, or would I need to go up to 1cc twice a week leaving 550mg total? Funny thing is.. For the longest time my math was off.. I didn't realize 2cc a week was 550mg.. Oops.
Also.. I'm the conserative type i guess u could say.. So I was considering running novladex the entire cycle following up with clomid also from week 10 through pct. 20mg nolva, 25-50 mg clomid, and some vitamin C for pct for 3-5 weeks, 5 weeks more than likely as I'd like to be safer than sorry.

Is there anything I am missing here? Any surprises Should I expect any changes in libido, or.. Ed while on cycle or PCT?

As always.. Thank you very much for you time!!

**flexandex** · 01-05-2011, 01:46 AM

Edit: i'll need to grab your stats aswell..

I wouldn't reccomend doing half, its going to be more than your baseline levels but i wouldn't think it was worth the shutdown. thats just my opinion though. I googled andropen real quick and its a 5esther blend, some reccomend EOD or E3D but i think you may scrape by allright with biweeky.

'running nolva throughout' isn't actually conservative, its not reccomended.

This is a cycle i have put together and taken from many different veterens opinions and thoughts and i've tried to take every precaution in the book, i start on the 10th.

week 1-12 test-e 500mg PW
week 1-4 dbol 25mg ED (may ramp to 40 in week 2-4; we'll see)

week 2-12 HCG 250IU 2x PW
week 1-12 arimidex 0.25 EOD
week 12-14 2week gap between last jab and PCT.

(pheedno PCT)
week 14-18 clomid 100mg ED
week 14-18 nolva 20mg ED

Heres what my cycle looks like day by day, you may want to do something like this of your own to make sure you don't miss anything.

**HawaiianPride.** · 01-05-2011, 02:53 AM

I noticed in your other thread you had stated your diet isn't all that great. I would address this issue before even considering using anabolic steroids .

To help others better help yourself, always include detailed stats so we can provide logical advice:
age
weight
height
bf
training experience
cycle experience
pct knowledge
goals

**songdog** · 01-05-2011, 06:04 AM

you asked 4 help where did u go?

**Lynx331** · 01-05-2011, 08:49 AM

Sorry guys, ended up falling asleep right after posting that.
23
6'2"
178lbs
14%bf
Training experience 6 years
Cycle experience, first ever.
Pct knowledge, I consider to be fair, but it seems theres so many different theorys, what I've got planned is just the ones I seem to find most common.
Goals. Increase lean muscle for 12 week cycle, followed by the best pct I can, and then maintain that weight naturally from there on out.

Regards to my diet, lately it has slacked, which has lead to the bf increase and weight loss, but I'm back on my diet now, and for sure if I'm going to do this I wont miss a day of my diet.

Flexandex that spreadsheet is awesome! Looks like you have a great plan for pct! HGC is something I have not researched that much, but ive been hearing about it more and more so I'm going to give it a good look in the next few days.

Also.. I can get clomid and nolva much cheaper online than from my guy.. This may be a dumb question.. But won't it kind of "red flag me" if I order clomid nolva (and well possibly hgc now) and syringes and have them delivered to my house?

As far as arimidex goes.. I was under the impression you could run this, or nolva throughout your cycle, and above you mentioned nolva throughout is not reccomended, this is the first I've heard of this why is that?

Thanks again everyone!

**Lynx331** · 01-05-2011, 12:45 PM

Also I'm curious about blood tests. They are obviously very important, but should I do one before, and one middle and one after. I was looking at using directlabs.com, 159$ for everything, minus estrogen. Estrogen would be another 74$. How necessary are these tests? And more so how necessary is the estrogen portion of it? Does that sound about right to you guys? A before, during, and after test?

Thank you all so much for your help, Ive read all this information.. And it really helps to have the info related specifically to me. So thank you again for your time!