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    denkall test 400

    any thoughts or experience with this. the fact that it has two of the same ester lifes in the bottle is dumb, but other than that i was wondering what people thought of it... was gonna try a cycle with dbol . any suggestions?

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    is that brand even still around?

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    Nope, they are out of business. Stupid americans came down and busted them for 'making steroids aimed at americans.' It was painfull stuff, anyhow...

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    they were bought out by the same company that puts out qvc products and i've been reading about it for literally 2 hours. alot of mixed reviews. some people saying it burns all to hell, and other saying its like a "bruise". the funny thing that i found is that this was a thread in '03. either way i have 25ml of it and was thinking this:
    week 1-12: t-400:200mg e3d
    week 1-4: dbol :25mg ed split every 12hours
    week 14-18: nolva 40/40/20/20
    week 14-18: clomid 100/100/50/50

    27yrs, 5'10", 181 with 12%bf (as of today), one sust cycle of 10weeks, lifting for 7yrs, diets pretty clean,

    any and all suggestions would be great!
    thanks so far!

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    03' 7 year old gear? i would assume its no good. and QV has been out of business for a long time also i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckhombre View Post
    Nope, they are out of business. Stupid americans came down and busted them for 'making steroids aimed at americans.' It was painfull stuff, anyhow...
    Its still around. Just no longer a MEX product. It was bought buy another compnay and comes out of CHINA now.

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    a ugl bought the rights to the name and now makes it. my first cycle was t400 and it worked well for me. I cut it with a 1:1 ratio of sterile grapeseed oil and had zero pain.

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    sterile grapeseed oil? can you be more specific to how you did that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themoreyouknow View Post
    a ugl bought the rights to the name and now makes it. my first cycle was t400 and it worked well for me. I cut it with a 1:1 ratio of sterile grapeseed oil and had zero pain.
    UGLs operate illegally, so they can't trademark brands or anything. Thererfore you can't buy the rights to a UGL name. You just copy it.

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    to the OP, how'd this cycle turn out for u?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    UGLs operate illegally, so they can't trademark brands or anything. Thererfore you can't buy the rights to a UGL name. You just copy it.
    exactly, someone stole the name when they went under.
    it was painful as shit, there was no reason to use the original t400 ,much better alternatives.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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