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    I'm New to Steroids, could someone point me in the right direction?

    Hi I've recently given serious consideration to starting a cycle of anabolic steroids . I have done some research and considered the risk and would really like to give it a shot. First I'd like to give a little background information and lay out my goals. I'm 18 years old right now. I'll be attending college next year and I would really like to have an ideal body. I have played football most of my life and have been lifting intensely the past 4 years. I've always been one of the bigger, stronger kids. I was easily the strongest on the football team. I've played as an offensive lineman so I'm a bigger person. I've dropped some fat recently and I'm down to 250lbs at 6' tall. I know 250 seems pretty hefty but I'm not "fat" per se. My goal is to cut the excess fat I have. I have no interest in bulking or seeing huge strength gains. All I want is to be lean with impressive muscle definition. I'm looking for a stack that will help me out. I've done some research and come across orals such as Primobolan , Anavar , and Winstrol . I'd prefer something that does not aromatize and not an injection. I've made a promise to myself that I wouldn't inject. What would you guys suggest? I'm a complete novice so I have no idea what to stack these with or if I should stack them with anything at all? Again, my goal is not to be huge, I just want the ideal beach body and I am looking for a little extra help. All help is appreciated.
    Thanks in advance!! Edit: I forgot to add that in my many years of football, I ended up having knee surgery on both of my knees for partial tears in my patellar tendons. I played the entire season on them and unfortunately this has led to them being torn worse than before the surgery in May. This may or may not be relevant but I thought I'd add it anyway. Also, I've been on a fairly strict diet for roughly 3 weeks which consists of 6 small meals/day, 1800-2000 calories per day and around 160-180g of protein/day.
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    I would suggest not touching any AAS for about 6 years. Under the age of 24 the negative from AAS greatly outweigh the positives. (stunted growth, affects development of HPTA, completely shutting down your natural testosterone production, etc.)

    Right now you need to worry about diet. Diet is key. With diet alone you could easily cut a ton of fat. Steroids arent miracle pills that just cut the fat off of you.

    You need to dedicate yourself to training, diet, and rest

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    There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

    I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

    I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.

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    Good reply Marcus.

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    To summarize--> Do it now, you risk annoying your penis. It would suck to not be able to get an erection in your early 20s. Cherish your penis, young man.

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    You guys seem to know what you're talking about and I'll definitely take it into consideration. What do you guys think about prohormones? I know a few people that have taken them with impressive results.

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    order some food

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    I know it's not what you want to hear bro, but prohormones carry similar risks to steroids . You have quite high natural testosterone production at your age anyway... just ride on that for the next few years.

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    diet train sleep dedicate the next 6 years to it and then re-assess...

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    im 18 too bro even tho my goals are different im definately waiting. i have threads in the diet and workout forums asking for advice and im currently waiting but just let ur "natural roids" do what u want.

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    ^^ And it'll just make you that much better for the future..

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    yep! thnx reed

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    Too young.

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    Alright I'll take everyones advice and steer clear of anything for the time being. Thanks everyone for the input. I'll just lose the gut then reevaluate my situation.

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    ^^^there you go^^^ you could always go ahead and then when ur dick doesnt get up think about everyone here and they told ya soo

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    bad idea wait it out or suffer the consequences.

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    good man........
    Quote Originally Posted by BUTTERYGOODNESS View Post
    im 18 too bro even tho my goals are different im definately waiting. i have threads in the diet and workout forums asking for advice and im currently waiting but just let ur "natural roids" do what u want.

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