Starting 16 week cutting cycle+6 week PCT

**JusLiftIt** · 02-12-2011, 06:11 PM

So I'm starting a cutting cycle and will be on it for 16 weeks + a 6 week pct.
It was givin to me by my strength and conditioning coach for the organization im involved with yes the organization is a big one and up there at a very high level. The cycle I was givin seems like a lot (It could just be me thinking it is cause its on paper or whatever people have there moments) I was wondering what you guys thought. I'm just curiouse to see. Mind you I'm not paying for all of this the organization does... Anyway let me know what you think, Sometimes competitivness causes people to do more than they should if it means bringing more money to the organization... I just want to be sure this cycle is NOT over the top cause I can say no....usually... Just to put my mind at ease fellas thankx!
Stats:
6'4 3/4
292.6lbs
20.7% bf
Here is the cycle...
1-16/200mgs Test P100/EOD
1-16/200mgs Boldenone /Mon&thurs
1-16/4iu GH/ED
1-6&12-16/50mgs winstrol /ED
7-12/T3 (cytomel )/50-100mcgs/ED
11-16/100mgs Tren acetate/ED
Week Off
PCT
1-6/Clomid/ED/wk 1 300mg ED, wk 2 200mg ED, wk 3 100mg/ED wk 4 50mg/ED, wk 5 50mg/ED, Wk 6 50mg/ED
1-6/Var/40mg/ED
1-6/GH/4IU
1-6/HCG /500iu/ED
1-4/Nolvadex /20-40mgs/ED
1-5/Arimidex /wk 1-2 .50mg/ED, wk 3 .50mg/EOD,
wk 4-5 .50/E3D
2,4,6/Clenject/.25mg/ED

**dec11** · 02-12-2011, 08:12 PM

what age are you? cycle experience?

**JusLiftIt** · 02-12-2011, 08:52 PM

Im late 20's and have been cycling for 4 years but this is the first time i've had this much gear in a cycle so I wanted to be sure that it was okay.

**Far from massive** · 02-12-2011, 09:10 PM

I am no expert, So I will leave the cycle specifics to those who are. However while the amounts of gear and the length of the cycle seems pretty rough. I would be more scared of running 7 grams of Clomi in two weeks....But that's just me

**JusLiftIt** · 02-12-2011, 09:49 PM

You think? Ya I can see that hmmm

**sadukar** · 02-12-2011, 10:34 PM

Did I see Var at 40mg ED during PCT??? Suggestions: 1) run HCG during the cycle, not during PCT. 2) drop the var during your PCT (or at least reduce it to like 10mg ED) 3) run arim during the cycle as well, not just in PCT 4) run the nolva starting at 40 ed and lowering to 20 5) lower the clomid numbers.

Just my thoughts. Also, that is a TON of gear...

**layeazy** · 02-12-2011, 10:58 PM

As long as you can handle all the compounds you should make some decent gains least you have experience so you should know what to expect..

**JusLiftIt** · 02-12-2011, 11:41 PM

Yep lowered the clomid numbers to something that looks way better as far as dosage then also moved the hcg and arimidex and incorporated it into my cycle and took it out of my PCT. And dropped down the dosage of var.

**Far from massive** · 02-12-2011, 11:59 PM

I agree with the removal of HCG from PCT to the cycle. I have posted some suggestions in your other thread on a dosing regimen and dilution info.

**JusLiftIt** · 02-13-2011, 12:33 AM

Oh sweet thanks FFM You Da Man

**dec11** · 02-13-2011, 01:13 PM

wtf ?
you're taking var as a pct compound?
clomid a mile too high, 50mgs pd for 6wks is plenty enough
wouldnt bother with the winnie at the front of the cycle
cant see that EQ doing much
test needs to be run a week longer than tren a, even though tren a is fast out

all in all, you need to research this ALOT more, thats just a big mess you're proposing tbh

**Pac Man** · 02-13-2011, 01:30 PM

some people use var to bridge.
Since you're obviously in the competitive field the question is testing, will you be tested?
Also will you be playing on this cycle? That tren will kill your endurance, im not talking a couple seconds on your time, I'm talking 10 steps and you're out of breath.
Personally I like using tren in the middle of the cycle, maybe in between the winni so you're not losing the effects of the winni at the end of your cycle.
Since you seem to be on an unlimited budget here and your running an insane cycle as it is, try to replace the boldenone with bold cyp, shorter acting, a little painful but nothing compared to prop.

What cycles have you run in the past?

**JusLiftIt** · 02-13-2011, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

wtf ?
you're taking var as a pct compound?
clomid a mile too high, 50mgs pd for 6wks is plenty enough
wouldnt bother with the winnie at the front of the cycle
cant see that EQ doing much
test needs to be run a week longer than tren a, even though tren a is fast out

all in all, you need to research this ALOT more, thats just a big mess you're proposing tbh

Alright, So I took your advice and got rid of the var in the PCT and have reduced the clomis already from an earlier post to that dosage and also took your advice on the winni and on running the test longer than the tren!

**Far from massive** · 02-13-2011, 01:53 PM

Agreed ( with Dec11ths last post) the person who wrote this cycle has very little knowlege of AAS usage. In addtion to the other stuff mentioned why do EOD prop injections when you are already doing daily injections of other compounds? I have used Prop twice and have never been happy with EOD injections daily works much better. Since you would already be using other compounds trough most of the cycle simply mix the Prop & Winnie & Tren together in the same shot whenever possible ( Some can pin 2-2.5 in delts without any trouble others find 1.5 to be the limit of their comfort level) however with your size I would think in most locations you would be able to pin all three (2.5 ml) in one shot.

I do not have first hand knowlege of this type of cycle (and basically zero knowlege on growth) but most of this stuff does not require a masters in AAS to see the faults. As far as my first post on the Clomi, that is what really stood out to me, other things in this cycle may be completely wrong but the clomid deal could literally leave you in the dark as visual side effects are fairly common (1.5% at 50mg ed in healthy females) and although they are generally temporary, higher dosages would likely increase the frequency as well as the duration. In addition clomiphene is hepaotoxic causing "temprorary) elevated liver values in healthy individuals , usage at 6 times a normal level could cause real damage even in a healthy individual.

I was writing while you posted above, my reply was actually to Dec11ths post. Anyway glad to hear about the reduction in clomi and the elimination of the var in PCT as well as stopping the Tren a week ahead of the test so that the tren will clear in a test rich environment. As far as the winni I don't think you will miss it much.

**Far from massive** · 02-13-2011, 02:03 PM

One other thing, If you want you could go to the lounge and get your post count up to 50 then people could PM you to ask you things you may not be comfortable discussing on the open board. However if you do, be on the lookout for the scam artists who will PM you telling you they have the smokin hookup on all things anabolic LOL those who really do are not chasing buyers....

**JusLiftIt** · 02-13-2011, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

One other thing, If you want you could go to the lounge and get your post count up to 50 then people could PM you to ask you things you may not be comfortable discussing on the open board. However if you do, be on the lookout for the scam artists who will PM you telling you they have the smokin hookup on all things anabolic LOL those who really do are not chasing buyers....

Hey look on my post about hgh and HCG im pretty sure a guy just offered to sell my some hgh..... uhh ohhh no bueno for him!!!!

**JusLiftIt** · 02-13-2011, 06:25 PM

Oh almost forgot! So Ironside said Tren will obliderate my endurance pretty much.... I'd really like not to have that happen.... So would Primo be a better choice in this case? Cause if I do infact take like ten strides and be suckin air then I prolly shouldn't do that haha... I neeed to breathe to compete lol