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    Seasoned member 1st cycle help

    what up guys im about to hop over to the dark side.
    working on maybe getting super shredded 1st

    going to run low dose test though because of wrestling i cant get too crazy of pumps.

    thinking Test E or C whatever i can get
    350mgs a week for 12 weeks scared of gyno though had a little during puberty
    what could i run during cycle to keep estrogen down?
    i was thinking just having letro on hand just incase and running an ai throughout the cycle then at the end using something different for pct?
    your thoughts?

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    I'd research at bit further. NO AI for PCT. Look into swiftos pct thread. Id do arimidex starting at .25mg e3d and take it from there while on


    Thinking about getting super shredded first. lol oh boy your title fits you lol

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    haha how ya been reed?
    so ill run armidex while on and have letro on hand then
    nolva for pct?

    and i heard i should be lean before starting cycle?
    im about 12-14% right now.....i love burritos

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    haha pretty good man. hope all as been well with you!

    Yeah do the arimidex and just hold on to the letro. Do DO NOT I repeat YOU DO NOT want to crash your estro into the ground as you'll just being asking yourself for a different array of problems.

    Nolva clomid pct if you can get you some HCG to run during cycle you'll have an easier time coming off.

    Yeah marcus' thread priming is about leaning out and carb depleting so when you hit the juice food etc it creates a better way to growth in layman's terms. ha sorry research the thread. Marcus priming....

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    ok will do. last question

    i want to but on at least 10lbs of lbm. do u think i could keep that continually training hard and eating well once i come off?
    or is it better to just stay natural for maintaining size

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    I mean thats person dependant. I wouldn't worry so much and just do your absolute best.

    If you are just going to maintain your size then stay natural. IDK where you at but I think you could put on another 10lbs of LBM with some more hard work under your belt without juice\

    Remember do research but don't over analzye the things that aren't as important.

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    sounds good thanks man im 5'9 190lbs now at like 14% maybe more i guess
    bench 315x3
    squat a2g 315x3
    deadlift 405x10
    seated milt 205x6

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    I think you're good to go bro!.

    Let the fun begin!

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    dark side u say?

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    Yes sir!

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    goal is like 195 8% bodyfat. and i wanna be able to maintain that not running cycles all the time.
    think thats going to be hard?

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