Best cycle for a baseball pitcher

**rivbotnightmare** · 02-23-2011, 11:34 PM

Hey guys, Havent been on in a while because I have been doing my own experiments with different cycles over the last couple years to see what would give me the best velocity for pitching. I am 6' 165 normally, but have been as large as 192 lbs. It seems The best weight for me is around 180. However, I have used different substances, but the PCT is what kills me. I can never keep my gains. I am preseason about 10 weeks away, and need the best possible cycle(s), one for the season, and one for being shredded when I go to the bahamas in September. By my calculations, that gives me 30 weeks, and that should be just the right time for 2 cycles. I would like two very specific routines, one for pitching, and one for shredding, including the proper pct protocol. I also want to let you know that I have been off AAS for roughly 5 months, and have been using 2 IU a day, 5 days a week of HGH just to prime my body for the cycles, but will be upping it to 4 IU once I start the cycles. If this sounds retarted, I am sorry. There is so much research, and so much bukk on the web. Figured I would just ask the PROs.

Thanks

**marcus300** · 02-24-2011, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by rivbotnightmare

Hey guys, Havent been on in a while because I have been doing my own experiments with different cycles over the last couple years to see what would give me the best velocity for pitching. I am 6' 165 normally, but have been as large as 192 lbs. It seems The best weight for me is around 180. However, I have used different substances, but the PCT is what kills me. I can never keep my gains. I am preseason about 10 weeks away, and need the best possible cycle(s), one for the season, and one for being shredded when I go to the bahamas in September. By my calculations, that gives me 30 weeks, and that should be just the right time for 2 cycles. I would like two very specific routines, one for pitching, and one for shredding, including the proper pct protocol. I also want to let you know that I have been off AAS for roughly 5 months, and have been using 2 IU a day, 5 days a week of HGH just to prime my body for the cycles, but will be upping it to 4 IU once I start the cycles. If this sounds retarted, I am sorry. There is so much research, and so much bukk on the web. Figured I would just ask the PROs.

Thanks

What are your stats? age bf?

You need to start eating like a 18lbs guy first, the reason why you lose all your gains is because you dont have a diet to support that muscle tissue, its all in your diet. You dont need steroids yet you need to start eating correctly and put some mass/size on naturally and build a base otherwise you will lose all gains from any cycles just like you have in the past, diet is the key!!

**rivbotnightmare** · 02-24-2011, 01:51 AM

Lol, thanks, but this is my..eh, 7-8th cycle. That's the problem. I can eat like hell when I'm cycling, but can't eat when I come off. So I stayed off for the last 5 months. I'm probably 11% bf 31 years old. Not my first rodeo you know. I struggle with pct.

**rivbotnightmare** · 02-24-2011, 01:54 AM

Lol, thanks, but this is my..eh, 7-8th cycle. That's the problem. I can eat like hell when I'm cycling, but can't eat when I come off. So I stayed off for the last 5 months. I'm probably 11% bf 31 years old. Not my first rodeo you know. I struggle with pct. My diet does suck right now. I just can't eat for some reason.

**cro** · 02-24-2011, 05:29 AM

are you in minor league or major? and are you getting tested at spring traing? or when will you get tested?

Originally Posted by rivbotnightmare

Lol, thanks, but this is my..eh, 7-8th cycle. That's the problem. I can eat like hell when I'm cycling, but can't eat when I come off. So I stayed off for the last 5 months. I'm probably 11% bf 31 years old. Not my first rodeo you know. I struggle with pct. My diet does suck right now. I just can't eat for some reason.

**evil30** · 02-24-2011, 07:00 AM

I am a former pitcher as well.....I know it can be hard eating right when in season. The life of a baseball player is difficult from the number of games, time of games, and amount of travel, BUT diet is key here. It sounds as if your diet is your downfall. Unless you get a proper and stable diet plan in place along with a regular workout and cardio routine, you will continue to struggle with keeping gains. I know you admit your diet is lacking but get your diet in check 1st before you do another cycle and STICK to that diet through PCT or you again waste your money and hard work with yet another cycle. You can do it!

**Honkey_Kong** · 02-24-2011, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by rivbotnightmare

Lol, thanks, but this is my..eh, 7-8th cycle. That's the problem. I can eat like hell when I'm cycling, but can't eat when I come off. So I stayed off for the last 5 months. I'm probably 11% bf 31 years old. Not my first rodeo you know. I struggle with pct. My diet does suck right now. I just can't eat for some reason.

When you walk by a good BBQ stand, you don't get hungry? Cycling or not, if I smell good food, I get hungry (I'm naturally an ectomorph too). And that's the key to coming up with a good diet to keep your gains. You need foods that you can't wait to eat. I don't mean like candy and stuff. I mean like pork chops, ribs, steak, baked potatoes, fresh pastas, etc. You know the stuff that makes life worth living.

As far as your PCT, get clomid and nolva on hand for it.

**rivbotnightmare** · 02-24-2011, 05:13 PM

Let's say, I perfect my diet, can I have some cycle suggestions to both of situations needed. When I need to do something I do it. It's hard to eat for me when my hormones are all over the place. That's why I also asked about a good pct. My diet will be in check, now anyone feel like prescribing a couple of cycles???

**cro** · 02-24-2011, 05:35 PM

bro with 7-8 cycles under your belt do you really need someone to prescribe you cycles. im only going on #2 and i had that planned before i finished #1.

Originally Posted by rivbotnightmare

Let's say, I perfect my diet, can I have some cycle suggestions to both of situations needed. When I need to do something I do it. It's hard to eat for me when my hormones are all over the place. That's why I also asked about a good pct. My diet will be in check, now anyone feel like prescribing a couple of cycles???

**rivbotnightmare** · 02-25-2011, 10:10 AM

All of these forums are the same. I'm asking for suggestions. I don't get why these forums exist. You say it's about making sure people are using AAS are safe, but you will take the first opportunity to point out everything wrong with someone. Psychologically, that shows low self esteem bro. Probably why you use AAS anyway. How about when there is a question, you give your solution? Wow, that would be too hard. It's like you would have to use your mind, not your body...screw that...

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 02-25-2011, 10:51 AM

People are telling you you're Fing up that's all.

You've been told to get your diet right and you won't even need AAS for now, and then you ask for 2 cycle suggestions within a 30 week period.

The advice you've been given is eat, eat a lot. (1.5g-2.0g of protein per lb of bodyweight)