Test Prop and Tren A burst cycle

**dirtybrd** · 03-20-2011, 08:03 PM

I just ordered 4 vials Test Prop 100mg and 2 Tren A 200mg for two 30 day burst cycles. I was thinking injecting every third day, 200mg of test and 100mg of Tren? Does that sound good or should I drop the Tren amount in half being its my first go around with it, or should I go EOD at a lower dose of each? I plan on starting the test a few days before the Tren and stopping the Tren and few days earlier then the Test. Also, only being on for 30 days at a time is a bottle of each of Tomax and Clomid from ARR enough for PCT?

**boundup** · 03-20-2011, 08:05 PM

My advice? Do it. I am doing a short burst cycle of test prop and plan on cruising for a bit and then doing tren ace + test prop. I would, however, do ED.

**dirtybrd** · 03-20-2011, 08:20 PM

I only want to run two vials of Test and one if Tren per cycle, so I guess I'll have to redo my dosage math.

**yungone501** · 03-20-2011, 08:55 PM

For best results: ED injections. No more then EOD. You want to keep blood levels as stable as possible to maximize gains and reduce any sides. IMO, these compounds are the best to stack in terms of lean muscle.

BTW, body stats?

**dirtybrd** · 03-20-2011, 10:14 PM

6'1" 195lbs 13%bf and 37yo. 4th cycle

**dirtybrd** · 03-23-2011, 10:41 PM

Anyone else?

**dirtybrd** · 03-24-2011, 12:15 PM

Man, If I said I was 20 you guys would be all up in this thread! lol

***D7M*** · 03-24-2011, 12:24 PM

Are you priming first?

**JohnnyVegas** · 03-24-2011, 12:24 PM

No experience with Tren , but know both those compounds should be pinned at least EOD. I know that was already said above.

Sometimes you don't get a lot of response because people read the existing posts and have nothing to add. It is a good stack. You aren't fat or young. You have done cycles in the past. You are running the Test longer than the Tren. What isn't to like?

**dirtybrd** · 03-24-2011, 10:20 PM

@ DN7, Priming? I did a search and found out that, yes I am. I've been doing it without knowing. I recently cut my carbs and calories back a lil to shed a few % of bf.
@ Johnny, thats all I wanted was a lil input. I was thinking 50mg of Test and 50mg of Tren daily, so 350mg of each a week, should I up it to 75 or 100mg of each a day. I'm just a lil afraid of the Tren. Is my PCT gonna suffice? I seem to do really good still with my after cycle recovery, never any issues!

**boundup** · 03-25-2011, 07:33 AM

Your PCT should be a tad bit longer - Check out the PCT forum. Swifto posted three to four different protocols speaking specifically to cycles just like this. You'll have to forgive me as I on TRT and don't need to worry about it.

I will say, however, that consider really starting small with Tren . A friend of mine was going to shoot 75mg ED but wound up only being able to afford enough to do a 50mg ED. It was a blend of Test P/Tren A & Mast. The transformation was incredible. He was on 75mg ED test prop finishing with the blend and he managed to keep his exact same weight but shed body fat and gain strength like crazy. His only sides were simple night sweats. It's amazing what this compound can do at lower dosages - He's only 185lbs at 5'8" but bumping into him is like coming into contact with a concrete wall.

My vial is sitting in my box o goods and I cannot wait.

**dirtybrd** · 03-25-2011, 08:38 AM

Ok, Ill pick up some more stuff for PCT. I decided just to do 100mg each EOD, injecting small amounts ED is gonna be more difficult.

**Markosterone** · 03-25-2011, 08:51 AM

My first time with Tren , I did 75mg/ED, loves it..

**dirtybrd** · 03-25-2011, 09:26 AM

I must say I'm excited about this cycle, it's short, to the point and I won't get bored with it. I might start the Tren right off the bat and run it the first 3 weeks and then run Test only the 4th week. I like the idea of not "growing" but "transforming" keeps people from asking to many questions etc.

**Focusmen** · 03-25-2011, 10:02 AM

burst cycle are my fave method found... so faaaa!!!

**warlord_wang** · 03-25-2011, 08:51 PM

If I was doing a burst cycle I would use a lot higher doses then that man

**marcus300** · 03-25-2011, 10:41 PM

What were your previous dosages and results?

To receive the full benefit of short cycling especially a 30 day burst you need to know how to implement a prime , you haven't primed correctly and I advice you to learn a lot more about it if you want some serious gains.

**Chuck_R** · 03-25-2011, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

What were your previous dosages and results?

To receive the full benefit of short cycling especially a 30 day burst you need to know how to implement a prime , you haven't primed correctly and I advice you to learn a lot more about it if you want some serious gains.

BUMP Marcus, little more info on short burst prime....1st I've heard of it M300

**Chuck_R** · 03-25-2011, 10:52 PM

my bad....search button works miracles

**marcus300** · 03-25-2011, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Chuck_R

BUMP Marcus, little more info on short burst prime....1st I've heard of it M300

please click on the purple links below in my signature, priming link and short burst cycle link.

**warlord_wang** · 03-26-2011, 12:06 AM

why cant i see your signature?

**marcus300** · 03-26-2011, 12:12 AM

forums.steroid .com/showthread.php?345944-Short-burst-cycling-explained&highlight=

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...before-cycling..

**marcus300** · 03-26-2011, 12:13 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ned&highlight=

**LatissimusaurousRex** · 03-26-2011, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by warlord_wang

why cant i see your signature?

You have to go to your settings (upper right corner) and check the box that says allow signatures

**dirtybrd** · 03-26-2011, 09:45 AM

No, I havent done the priming 100%, Im starting with the 3rd day carb increase already. I was also incorrect about the Tren , its 100mg not the 200 I had thought, The 200mg Tren was E.

**dirtybrd** · 03-28-2011, 11:00 PM

Started today, decided on 125mg of Test and 100mg of Tren everyday. 30 days total, the first 20 with both and the last 10 with just Test.
193lbs and 13% as of today. May post before and after pics, but know I'll get picked apart. LOL

***t-gunz*** · 03-28-2011, 11:49 PM

why would you start now. you should of waited 6-8 weeks of carb cycling to get the full benefits of this cycle

**marcus300** · 03-29-2011, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by t-gunz

why would you start now. you should of waited 6-8 weeks of carb cycling to get the full benefits of this cycle

Agreed ^^^

Your going to let slip alot of gains.

You have all the tools to do the job correctly and you go and do it completely wrong,

***t-gunz*** · 03-29-2011, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Agreed ^^^

Your going to let slip alot of gains.

You have all the tools to do the job correctly and you go and do it completely wrong,

do you mean whilst on cycle you will not gain as much or you mean during pct that you will loose a lot of gains?

to the op. i would stop and just wait out 6-8 weeks.

thats what im doing. be well worth... if not we'll go find marcus :P

**marcus300** · 03-29-2011, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by t-gunz

do you mean whilst on cycle you will not gain as much or you mean during pct that you will loose a lot of gains?

to the op. i would stop and just wait out 6-8 weeks.

thats what im doing. be well worth... if not we'll go find marcus :P

Yes he is vastly reducing his gains because he didn't create the right environment via the correct priming procedure before implementing the short burst cycle, the cycle also isnt well thought out but hey that's his choice, he had all the tools but ignored them, kind of makes it pointless in answering anything else on this thread lol.

**dirtybrd** · 03-29-2011, 09:23 AM

Does it really make that much difference? Not being a smart ass, it's an honest question. What kinda of difference are we talking about 10-12lbs less muscle? I'm not trying to become the biggest dude in the gym, just want to gain a lil mass and shed the fat.I feel like I'm being punished, lol! I'm only one shot in, it's not to late to stop.

***t-gunz*** · 03-29-2011, 01:37 PM

well you've been told by the guru. so you can take it or leave it.

10-12lbs is hard to say. but at the end of the day you paid to do a cycle why not make the most from it?