the Requirments for The begginer steroid user.

[mrniceguy215]

This list is in my opinion is what you must accomplish to earn the right to use anabolics.

1. you must be at least 21 years old, if you cant buy alcohol then you shouldn't be buying steroids .

2. you must have been lifting/ working out seriously for at least one year. this means that you have been eating correctly 6-10 meals a day for 365 days in a row. and following your training program to a tee.

3. your total for bench, deadlift, and squat needs to brake 1000.

4. when you think you have done enough research do some more.

5. talking to some one who has been using anabolics for more than a year.

6. If you dont know if you can get legit steroids and the drugs to combat the side effects of the steroids on a continuous bases then you havent put enough time into this.

[Matt]

I disagree with your list and notice it just fits your stats..

You need to be at least 25
You need to have been training at least 3 years.

Just 2 things i would change...

[mrniceguy215]

not true it doesnt fit my stats yet.
and every one says 25 thats your opinion, and 3 years is still just an opinon

[Flier]

Nobody can reach close to their max natural potential in 1 year....

[LatissimusaurousRex]

STICKY THIS!!!!

Yeah jk

IDK why you would make a list like this even though the mods/vets had already made it clear what the "requirements" are to use AAS. Maybe it's their opinion (to a degree), but I think most people would take their fact-based-opinions over yours.

[kelevra]

This list is in my opinion is what you must accomplish to earn the right to use anabolics.

1. you must be at least 21 years old, if you cant buy alcohol then you shouldn't be buying steroids .25

2. you must have been lifting/ working out seriously for at least one year. this means that you have been eating correctly 6-10 meals a day for 365 days in a row. and following your training program to a tee.3-5 years of quality research and experience

3. your total for bench, deadlift, and squat needs to brake 1000.has NO bearing what so ever

4. when you think you have done enough research do some more. could agree

5. talking to some one who has been using anabolics for more than a year. one who knows what they have been doing for more than a year

6. If you dont know if you can get legit steroids and the drugs to combat the side effects of the steroids on a continuous bases then you havent put enough time into this.

my 2 pennies

[JohnnyVegas]

I think you shouldn't be able to use them until your body's natural production drops well below acceptable levels. I have the levels of a 14 year old girl...so I'm in!

[mrniceguy215]

3-5 years is ridicoulous for the person whos looking to acheive an elite level of sucess, starting at 25 is smart but again for the person looking to acheive an elite level of succes 25 could be to far away. these in my opinon are the minimal essentials for the begginer steroid user. to just blanket every thing with you must be 25 and have 3-5 years training is ubsurd in my opinion.

[grumpee]

I would like to add that you must have a IQ above 75 before ever considering running a cycle. I see to many young know it all kids that do not meet this requirment here.

[mrniceguy215]

I would like to add that you must have a IQ above 75 before ever considering running a cycle. I see to many young know it all kids that do not meet this requirment here.

agree some people are just to stupid to use steroids

[apacheman75]

I would like to add that you must have a IQ above 75 before ever considering running a cycle. I see to many young know it all kids that do not meet this requirment here.

Amen!

[Fetch]

Follow your own rules.
If you had done enough research, you would know that 24-25 is the age to reach for. This isn't some magical number people pulled out of a hat. This is the average age where a person's endocrine system stops developing.
Using steroids before this point is begging for a whole mess of permanent damage to said system.

It is irresponsible to tell people its ok to use at 21. There might be 1 in 100 kids who come to this forum below the proper age where use could be justified. If you make it sound ok, every single kid here will think they are the exception.

[SAMS_DAD]

First off, a 21 year old (well you were 20 last year) shouldn't be giving any kind of advice on how to cycle. They should also have a solid foundation built which could take years. Just because you have 1 year training experience (well 2 years now) doesn't mean you could advise the next person to do the same. You've been on this board for over a year, seen countless number of threads of vets telling the young not to cycle, yet you provide the exact same opposite advice w/only 2 years of lifting experience, plus your underage yourself? Is this an april fools joke?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...kly&highlight=

you were told over and over in this thread that you were too young, now you start a thread stating it's a requirement? WTF?

[JohnnyVegas]

3-5 years is ridicoulous for the person whos looking to acheive an elite level of sucess, starting at 25 is smart but again for the person looking to acheive an elite level of succes 25 could be to far away. these in my opinon are the minimal essentials for the begginer steroid user. to just blanket every thing with you must be 25 and have 3-5 years training is ubsurd in my opinion.

No one here is saying that you cannot do steroids until you are 25. They are saying you shouldn't, and they won't help you do it because it is unhealthy. Plenty of kids have gone off in a huff and done them against the advice given here.

I will also add that steroid use for a person looking to achieve an elite level of success is rubbish. If you are talking about yourself, then let's see some picks to see how far along you are. Or maybe you are already racking up great stats playing in the top 10% of your sport? Or do you mean that the steroids are what makes one elite, and kids could become elite with one year's training and some shots?

[mrniceguy215]

i completly agree that 25 is the best age, i am simply saying that 21 is the youngest you should be and 1 year of religous training is also the most minimal. this is just my take on it im not trying to re write the rules.

[ghettoboyd]

i think your guidlines are simply rediculous... no one should even contemplate cycleing aas untill they have years of experiance in learning how to eat and train to grow...it should become your lifestyle, your passion and only after you have built a good base of muscle and done your reasurch should you possibly experiment with aas...what the hell is all you young guys hurry anyways? you have your whole lives to get big...bbing is a marathon not a sprint, we must learn to walk before we start running...there is a right way and a wrong way to do this so why not do this the right way and reap a lifetime of rewards rather than a few weeks of gains only to watch them dissapear as fast as they came....just sayin'....

[jimmyinkedup]

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Im fairly certain in sevreal stickies and by several monitors and members some pretty clear cut, accurate guidelines /info have been provided regarding this topic.

[wilsonw25]

not true it doesnt fit my stats yet.
and every one says 25 thats your opinion, and 3 years is still just an opinon

25 is not an opinion. 25 is the age when your endocrine system stops developing. When you take steroids you essentially shut down portions of your endocrine system which, while still IN DEVELOPMENT.. can cause serious side effects especially sexual in nature a few years down the road.

3 years is what it usually takes for someone to reach their potential if they have been lifting and following their workout/training routine to a T. not really an opinion.. more of a baseline for the average human on their muscle/strength builing potential.

[Rollergirl]

Is there a "list" like this for girls.. regarding Anavar cycle?

[RaZr]

Bold

This list is in my opinion is what you must accomplish to earn the right to use anabolics.

1. you must be at least 21 years old, if you cant buy alcohol then you shouldn't be buying steroids .
24 or 25

2. you must have been lifting/ working out seriously for at least one year. this means that you have been eating correctly 6-10 meals a day for 365 days in a row. and following your training program to a tee.
way more then a year bud

3. your total for bench, deadlift, and squat needs to brake 1000.
you should be able to break more then that naturally with a little dedication
4. when you think you have done enough research do some more.

5. talking to some one who has been using anabolics for more than a year.
duration of use has nothinng to do with knowledge

6. If you dont know if you can get legit steroids and the drugs to combat the side effects of the steroids on a continuous bases then you havent put enough time into this.

[mrniceguy215]

25 is not an opinion. 25 is the age when your endocrine system stops developing. When you take steroids you essentially shut down portions of your endocrine system which, while still IN DEVELOPMENT.. can cause serious side effects especially sexual in nature a few years down the road.

3 years is what it usually takes for someone to reach their potential if they have been lifting and following their workout/training routine to a T. not really an opinion.. more of a baseline for the average human on their muscle/strength builing potential.

no no those are still opinions

[Lemonada8]

This list is in my opinion is what you must accomplish to earn the right to use anabolics.

1. you must be at least 21 years old, if you cant buy alcohol then you shouldn't be buying steroids .
i agree with this one... most people say 25 but there are exceptions, but i def feel noone under 21
2. you must have been lifting/ working out seriously for at least one year. this means that you have been eating correctly 6-10 meals a day for 365 days in a row. and following your training program to a tee.
I think lifting knowledge needs to be much more than a year, diet maybe but def not lifting. Working out hard and lifting need to be atleast 3 years
3. your total for bench, deadlift, and squat needs to brake 1000.
lol never woulda broken this, this is basically saying you need to be lifting for more than a year. Not everyone is blessed to beable to increase str that great :P
4. when you think you have done enough research do some more.
agreed
5. talking to some one who has been using anabolics for more than a year.
not necessilary, it helps but i think any truely informed person can help but ultimately its your own body, so your own choice
6. If you dont know if you can get legit steroids and the drugs to combat the side effects of the steroids on a continuous bases then you havent put enough time into this
legit steroids are harder and harder to find, but PCT all u gotta to is ARR
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in bold, good points brought up.