prop/winny cycle, do i need hcg

[big swoll]

i am thinking about starting my prop/winny cycle here pretty soon....do u guys think i need hcg for after the prop...thanks

[JP1570]

how long a cycle, I'm guessing 6wks???? If so, then no, I would only use hcg on a long cycle, around 20wks, and then I would have some nolva ready to fight the estrogenic sides related to hcg. I hate that stuff

[big swoll]

also, could i expect to gain any lean mass from a prop winny cycle.....i know it is used as a cutting cycle, but i know with winny you can put on lean mass, and the prop is a test product, so i dont see why i wouldn't be able to put on some mass while on this cycle....any thoughts

[Rickson]

You will put on lean mass you just may not gain any weight since I am assuming you are trying to lose BF.

[big swoll]

thanks for the good info guys....i have decided on this cycle:

1-10 test prop 100mg eod
1-10 fina 75mg ed
5-10 winny 50mg ed

what post cycle therapy should i use for this cycle

[JP1570]

nolva /clomid, and btw, you should definitely put on some mass with that cycle. You may also find yourself pretty agressive. 7wks of fina had me pretty irritable, and I've never gotten like that from any other AS. Stick to a clean diet, but keep the protein high and the calories reasonable and you should put on some solid mass.

[big swoll]

thanks jp...that is my goal....i want to put on lean mass, add alot of strenght without the bloat.... i dont really want to get that bloat mainly because my parents know that ive done juice before and i dont want them to get too suspicious...do you think that 15lbs would be reasonable gains for this cycle

[anadrolavenger]

i would have to say so! i mean eat hard but clean and i dont see why you shouldnt be able to get your swole on!!