USP TREN and USP Suspension Test Prop Questions, second cycle

[Joe7sevens]

Hey guys, I just finished a test cyp cycle of 500/week for 12 weeks. It was my first cycle, it ended 4 weeks ago. Just off Adex and clomid now and did really well with hcg for the last 3 weeks. I went from 174, 20% bf to 200, 11% bf. I have now dropped down considerably in weight to 185 still at 11%bf, I have gain loads in strength but I am not hugely happy with the weight loss as I was hoping to be around 195 205 all said and done. Im still pounding the protein and eating 3000 cal per day but I am certainly missing the Test spike, my sex drive could be better. I had labs done last week and still waiting to hear back from the md. Also I am 38, have over 10 years training clean and stand 5'8.

My question is I have a good friend w gear from USP, he has Trenbolone A 100mg/ml and USP ProSuspension where 1ml has 50mg Test prop and 50mg suspension per the labels. I am wondering what dose is commonly used as the has instructed me to do one ml of each E3D, while all the reading I have done says 35-50 mg per day on the tren is common??? Not vary familiar with the prosuspension injection.

I have also read that one month off is sufficient to start a second cycle but I am questioning this as well.

Any advice??

[Joe7sevens]

Oh I also have Anavar 5mg tabs on hand as well

[sixoner]

so what are you asking bro for somebody to lay out your cycle for you???

if this is your second cycle you should know the drill.. lay out your proposal with pct included and ask for critique nobody wants to be your bitch I don't think

and if you're contemplating dosing prop/suspension E3D, then you think youre ready to run tren and deal with the added complications that may arise??

also time on+pct = time off you got a ways to go time to research and come correct

[lovbyts]

Basic rule of thumb, time on = time off and let me lay that out for you since most people try to use NEW math and get it wrong.

You did a 12 week cycle
you where off for 2 weeks before starting PCT
You did PCT for 4 weeks (if done properly)
Total is 18 week.

Even if you did it wrong your minimum time between cycles should be 18 weeks. MINIMUM....

Yes the test/tren is nothing new but might be a little much for a 2nd cycle. Tren can be hard core and if your sex drive is not what it should be you really need to wait until you get your blood work back and make sure everything is back to normal including how you feel before considering doing more or you will just compound the problem.

[Joe7sevens]

Yeah I guess your right, thats why I was questioning his advice,
the plan was:
8 wks 100mg/E3D Tren A, stacked w USP ProSuspension 50mg/test prop 50mg Suspension
week 5 -add 2500 hcg 1mg b12
week 6,7,8 -250 hcg 1mg b12, 3 x per week
week 10 Clomid 100mg ed, Arimadex .5 Eod
Week 11 clomid 50mg ed, Arimadex .5 Eod
week 12 Clomid, Adex stops

From what I read, 100 e3d is too much, I was thinking 50, And the Test prop could also be cut in half but Im not certain on the stack effect.
The var mentioned was just an aside as it was given to me, no plan to add that yet

[Joe7sevens]

Thanx LovByts solid advice, what do you think of running just the tren alone as a second cycle once the 18 weeks has past?

[lovbyts]

No, no and No. LOL you DONT want to run tren alone. You should use Test as a base for all cycles unless you like your sex drive going from not quite what it should be to non existent and you feel like wearing a skirt. LOL

If it was me I would stick to another test only for the 2nd or with maybe a kicker like dbol but that's about it. Make sure the diet is in order so you dont loose your gains during and after PCT and once you get that down then consider the tren. The first couple are sort of like riding a bike with training wheels. You have to learn what works for you, your body and how it will react. You dont want to keep being on a roller coaster of getting bigger/smaller and high sex drive/low sex drive.

[dirtybrd]

I say check back in with us in about 14 weeks. Planning this early and buying the gear to do it with will most certainly cause you to run the cycle TOOOO early. Let your body get back to normal, get some gains natty, then plan the next one. You'll get a little pop of growth when you natty test comes back too!

[songdog]

Good advice.You also dont run short esters like prop tren ace e3d.Your blood levels will be messed up.Bad sides bro.Do some research between now and then.

[Joe7sevens]

sounds good, would it hurt at this point to hit another bit of hcg to finish off pct?