dbol?

**bwilli31** · 05-01-2011, 05:33 AM

hi, i'm 21, weigh 82kg and only go to the gym 3 times a week as i have footy training and footy on the weekends. i work out pretty hard, but want more gains. i am thinking of doing a dbol cycle and looking for opinions on how long i should do a cycle for and how much i should take as it will be my first time?

**mtlbiceps** · 05-01-2011, 05:41 AM

I'd say do your homework and research first.

Your too young and you should not do a dbol only cycle - add Test to it. 400mg/test as a first cycle is very good. You could add some dbol to load it but I would never, EVER, do a dbol only cycle.

MTLBiceps

**cro** · 05-01-2011, 05:51 AM

no good cycle sucks , your to young also

**trapstar55** · 05-01-2011, 09:42 AM

wait 4 years brah

**xeroxy** · 05-01-2011, 09:45 AM

Theres nothing wrong with a dbol cycle BUT, you can forget your footy training if you take dbol, they don't go together.

**Eazy20** · 05-01-2011, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by xeroxy

Theres nothing wrong with a dbol cycle BUT, you can forget your footy training if you take dbol, they don't go together.

...There is everything wrong with a dbol only cycle...

**Tlee8769** · 05-02-2011, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Eazy20

...There is everything wrong with a dbol only cycle...

^^^^^^^^^^ Exactly you are way to young bro diet section for you...

**Honkey_Kong** · 05-03-2011, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by xeroxy

Theres nothing wrong with a dbol cycle BUT, you can forget your footy training if you take dbol, they don't go together.

Xeroxy, don't give out advice, you suck at it. A dbol only cycle sucks, but since the OP is 21, we'll leave it at that. Dude, forget that you give bad cycle advice here, don't be encouraging kids to take steroids . What's the matter with you?

**Ashop** · 05-01-2011, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by bwilli31

hi, i'm 21, weigh 82kg and only go to the gym 3 times a week as i have footy training and footy on the weekends. i work out pretty hard, but want more gains. i am thinking of doing a dbol cycle and looking for opinions on how long i should do a cycle for and how much i should take as it will be my first time?

I think your too young my friend. Take advantage of your own natural hormone production while its still roaring high.

**stpete** · 05-01-2011, 05:56 PM

Diet, training and research should be in your future before taking any AAS. Just my .02...

**bwilli31** · 05-01-2011, 11:01 PM

thanks for the reply guys, are there any high quality proteins that you may recommend instead?

**THE-DET-OAK** · 05-01-2011, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by bwilli31

thanks for the reply guys, are there any high quality proteins that you may recommend instead?

if you do not know the answer to this, then you are not ready for AAS, not just because of your age. do as others have said, use this time to learn proper training and diet, without this AAS will not help much.

**Blade15** · 05-02-2011, 03:48 AM

Another impatient dude...

**cro** · 05-02-2011, 04:24 AM

i remember itchin . just gotta have dicipline.

Originally Posted by Blade15

Another impatient dude...

**Blade15** · 05-02-2011, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by cro

i remember itchin . just gotta have dicipline.

Nothing personal.. but these guys just dont have patience... thats why.. i mean they dont read rules, stickies, dont have research, training exp. and of course that age to start a cycle...

**mtlbiceps** · 05-03-2011, 06:11 AM

A lot of these kids think that AAS is magic. Take a couple of pills, a shot every now and then and BANG your looking like Arnold back in the day. Wouldn't that be nice?

A lot of people don't know that taking AAS requires 10x the work!

MTLBiceps

**Eazy20** · 05-03-2011, 09:41 AM

I remember when dbol was all the rage in the high school football locker rooms...Back when those guys looked like giant water balloons for about 7 weeks then lost everything and grew bitch tits 3 weeks later...Good times

**marcus300** · 05-03-2011, 09:42 AM

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development

DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.