Cycle transition questions

[RockShawn]

I've done several cycles before the wrong way. I crashed hard by not doing pct and i've never done a "cutting Cycle". This time was going to be different but I'm still not sure how to get there. Im currently at week 6 of the bulking cycle below. 256lbs. 6'2" 18%bf 37yo. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My supply is pretty solid so I can get just about anything.

My idea was to do a 12 - 16 week bulking cycle:
500 test E / wk
400 Deca / wk
and take an over the counter estrogen blocker (Edge)

Then go through pct with clomid for 2 weeks

Then start a cutting cycle:
wks 1-3 Clen up to 7 tabs per day
wks 3-8 50 mg Winnie per day
wks 7-9 Clen up to 7 tabs per day
and tabs T-3 in wks 4-7

I hadn't planned any test in the cutting but that is probably a mistake. Should I cram the two cycles together - with modifications as neccesary - then do more aggressive pct?

Sorry I'm so confused.

[THE-DET-OAK]

cutting so soon after a cycle will amost insure that you will lose your hard earned gains. you need to do you T/deca cycle do a full pct and then do a totally separate cycle. 2 weeks and clomid only is not a sufficient PCT for your cycle.

[dec11]

I've done several cycles before the wrong way. I crashed hard by not doing pct and i've never done a "cutting Cycle". This time was going to be different but I'm still not sure how to get there. Im currently at week 6 of the bulking cycle below. 256lbs. 6'2" 18%bf 37yo. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My supply is pretty solid so I can get just about anything.

My idea was to do a 12 - 16 week bulking cycle:
500 test E / wk
400 Deca / wk
and take an over the counter estrogen blocker (Edge)

Then go through pct with clomid for 2 weeks

Then start a cutting cycle:
wks 1-3 Clen up to 7 tabs per day
wks 3-8 50 mg Winnie per day
wks 7-9 Clen up to 7 tabs per day
and tabs T-3 in wks 4-7

I hadn't planned any test in the cutting but that is probably a mistake. Should I cram the two cycles together - with modifications as neccesary - then do more aggressive pct?

Sorry I'm so confused.

do pct after this cycle and wait. time off = time on + pct.

btw a good pct would be clomid 50/50/50/50/50
nolva 20/20/20/20/20

[RockShawn]

Thanks oak and dec. Do you guys think the OTC estrogen blockers are ok while on or should I get anastrozole or something like that?

[dec11]

Thanks oak and dec. Do you guys think the OTC estrogen blockers are ok while on or should I get anastrozole or something like that?

get bolded. OTC are sh1t mate

[RockShawn]

Thanks dec

[RockShawn]

So dec just to be clear.
Add anastrozole to the t and deca
Do pct of clomid and nolvadex for 5 weeks
Rest the length of the pct and the cycle - 17 weeks then start cutting cycle.

Would you run some test in the cutting and did my cutting look ok. I've never been able to see my abs and dangit I'm doing this time and keeping them there.

[dec11]

So dec just to be clear.
Add anastrozole to the t and deca
Do pct of clomid and nolvadex for 5 weeks
Rest the length of the pct and the cycle - 17 weeks then start cutting cycle.

Would you run some test in the cutting and did my cutting look ok. I've never been able to see my abs and dangit I'm doing this time and keeping them there.

only if you get gyno symptoms, some ppl dont. run it at .5mg eod and see how you go

yeah you could run test when you cut, come back to me then lol