looking for some input

**jtuner77** · 05-12-2011, 03:34 PM

^^^100% correct. Start from scratch. Please get retested for your body fat % and then post your macros but also note your diet for someone on sauce is still to high consider you hold a lot less muscle mass then what was perceived.

**11Bgrunt1** · 05-12-2011, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by snowman

Bro , from those pictures, you have more then 11 to 12 % body fat... at 8% you start to see your abs, and in your case i dont see it, in the pictures, also IF you are 183 pounds ( and i believe you IF you tell me) you must be heavy bone... not trying to put you down, just giving you my honest opinion.
I also dont think you need to eat between 3500 and 4500 calories a day, being you only weigh 183 pounds... im 215 pounds with 13% body fat now, and i dont consume 4000 calories a day and soon will be cutting down those calories to start cutting...
IF you still want to do a cycle,i would just use test, BUT again, i'm still going to give you my opinion, and i would say, ( looking at those pictures) that you are not ready for a cycle yet... you can still grow without using steroids .

one more thing for you to consider... you said "I don't like stimulants I am very sensitive to them. I drink a cup off coffee i puke and shake and feel as if my heart is going to fall out of my chest." now i ask you, what do you think, its going to happen when you start taking steroids ,IF you are sensitive to stimulants and coffee... do you think steroids are not going to be worst for you????

I dont know if I would be sensitive to them or not. But I know caffeine makes me sick, but I can not tell you if it is the caffeine its self or the fact that I never consume it that it makes me sick. So honestly I don't know. That is why I am asking for good feed back. And the reason I eat so much is because if I don't, I drop weight very very easy Like I said when I was in selection I lost 33 lbs IN 21 days. When we do 10-20 day field problems I will loose any where from 10-20 lbs depending on how much we get to eat. I am not trying to be defined at all I need the fat on my body for fuel if you understand what I am saying. my last deployment I left at 195 lbs. and came back at 154 lbs and I ate every Fuking thing I could get my hands on. So that is the reason I eat so much. Can you give me an idea of maybe a way to not have to eat so much and keep weight. I will take any advise I can get and use it if it will help me. Right now I take cell-tech and muscle milk and beta-alanine and glutamine, I drink a shit load of green tea and I take a BCAA powder. So any info I can get will be very appreciated . I need it as soon as possible because I am getting ready to deploy and where I am going we have no internet so I need all the info I can get so I can use it. Thanks for your time helping me out. And I appreciate your honest opinion.

this is my diet

0415 one banana and a scoop of low fat natural peanut butter
0530 4 whole eggs
0600-0800 PT
0830 some type of meat usually chicken grilled
1000 wheat bread sandwich with turkey and a protein shake
1230 same thing minus protein shake but some type of fruit
1400 pasta with vegetables and some type of meat usually beef
1630 protein shake
1730 2 more hours of PT
2000 protein shake salad with tuna
2130 peanut butter sanwich with honey

**11Bgrunt1** · 05-12-2011, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by jtuner77

^^^100% correct. Start from scratch. Please get retested for your body fat % and then post your macros but also note your diet for someone on sauce is still to high consider you hold a lot less muscle mass then what was perceived.

I am not cycling. have never cycled. I was asking opinion on what to take and how.

Not to sound like a dumbass but what is macros

**11Bgrunt1** · 05-12-2011, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by snowman

Stronger yes... without lots of size ( then why use steroids , IF you dont want to get big???) that also depends on what you eat... i have friends using test and tren and dont grow much, BUT thats because they dont eat enough and their diet sucks.... more endurance ??? i know your wife will be happy in bed...lol.....IF you not looking to get lots of size, then drop the deca , just use test...
IF you are not looking to get big, then there is natural things on the market, that will get you stronger, with more endurance, without lots of size...

CAn you give me some info on these natural things i can take to help with endurance and strength?

**Windex** · 05-12-2011, 04:28 PM

There in lies your problem your diet. It's not just how much you eat, but specifically what kinds of foods and at what times. You have no complex carbohydrates, that's why your always hungry - your food choices are poor for fuel. Macros = Protein, Carbs, Fats, and Calories of each food, and the total for each meal. Head on to the diet section and I can help get you started and the other more experienced members will give you more in-depth input. However, just a heads up your diet is going to need a complete overhaul.

**11Bgrunt1** · 05-12-2011, 04:29 PM

ok
Thanks man I guess I was wrong I dont know how to eat.

**safetybro** · 05-15-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

I'm really skeptical of your stats. 183 lbs @ your height with only 6% bodyfat means you look pretty close to Costa Armen (google: narcissus simplyshredded to find him). A test cycle for 9 weeks is pointless assuming you use a long-estered Test, which is what you would want for your first cycle. I'd read the stickies and educational threads, along with getting a picture of yourself with those stats, and posting your current diet in the diet forums. In addition, I'd get some bloodwork done. If each of the aforementioned criteria are met, then look into an anabolic cycle. You can literally spend days researching just from the material on this website, let alone books, scientific journals, etc.

There's a huge difference between 3500 and 4500 calories, which also sends a red flag up that your diet is not in check.

Are you Josef Rakich?

**vx1000** · 06-01-2011, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by 11Bgrunt1

When i went through SFAS I dropped 33 lbs in 21 days and I was eating 5-6k calories a day, 4 full MRE's. I almost got dropped from the course because they thought my health was at risk. Although I made it through it took me almost 8 months to get the weight back.

We only got two MRE's a day.

**11Bgrunt1** · 06-01-2011, 10:32 PM

When did you go through I went to 07-10

**vx1000** · 06-02-2011, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by 11Bgrunt1

When did you go through I went to 07-10

A few years ago. I've been at group a while now. Honestly, selection was physically the second hardest part of the course, the first hardest part was Sage Infil. If you made it through selection then you are physically suited to pass the course. Mostly your intelligence is tested during the course. I sacrificed PT and fitness just to study language and rehearse dismounted patrolling/battle drills during the course. I wasn't the fastest rucker but I scored highest in my class in Language, was the SUT honor grad, got the second highest GPA in the Echo course, and all I could manage to do during Sage was peer #1 during every peer evaluation. Smarts trump physical ability in the course, at least from my perspective.