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    Shutdown bad from tren , Help !

    I am 21 .this is only my 3rd cyle , the last 2 cycle were only 6 weeks and 8 weeks long and only taking 2ml ml of test and deca a week . i took 3ml of tren a week at the end of this 16 week cycle from week 13-16 .....and took chlomid for 3 weeks after( i know i am an idiot for not taking hcg ) i have been shutdown pretty bad since xmas . had very bad acne outbreak and i am on accutane since february.
    A friend advised me to do a short cycle of test 400 and deca 300 for 6-8 weeks and take tamoxifen during cycle and take after it followed by tamoxifen or clomid after . Should i do a pct now and leave the next cycle for a few months or do this short cycle ? if so what pct should i do to kickstart me again ? appreciate any help

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    you need a strong PCT now, and your going to have to be very careful with anything that aormatases, or the high levels of estrogen will close your growth plates, if they havent already.

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    I am already 6 ft 2 so no need to worry about growth plates . What pct would you reccommend and for how long? Will taking the test and deca make it any worse if i am already shutdown ?

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    Rather than wait, you should do some research here. It is important you understand how all these things work rather than just taking what someone else tells you, especially when people start to disagree and you are not sure which is the right path to take. FYI: I am not purposefully avoiding giving you actual PCT advice, I don't do PCT so I am not qualified to suggest anything.

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    how do you know you are shutdown hard?

    when is the last time you had blood work done?

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    the short cycle could get my hormones back right and clear the spots and take hcg to get me back to normal ? and finish the accuatane earlier which is costing me a fortune ......cheers for the info anyway johnny . just need a few opinions because i am a bit worried about it as i have never been shutdown before .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudi View Post
    the short cycle could get my hormones back right and clear the spots and take hcg to get me back to normal ? and finish the accuatane earlier which is costing me a fortune ......cheers for the info anyway johnny . just need a few opinions because i am a bit worried about it as i have never been shutdown before .
    This statement shows that you have no idea what you are doing. Should have taken a few more years to research and mature before jumping into harsh AAS cycles.

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    Yes taking more gear will suppress you even worst and will be a regrettable decision later in life. You need to run some more hcg and give it time.....and I mean time.....a year atleast. In that year you should be very smart when it comes to AS from all the researching you did

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    Agreed, do not take more thinking it will get things working again, it will only compound the problem. Your body will not start producing any of the natural hormones, only what you are injecting will be making things work for a while.

    You need to get the blood work done and then PCT as required. Hopefully things can get back to normal in the couple of months but it may be longer.

    In the meantime order some liquid cialis or V from aar above. it's not a fix, only a band-aid but hopefully it will get you working when you need it.

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    Thanks for the advice BG , Lovyts . I am going to start doing PCT as soon as i can get my hands on hcg and clomid which will be in 3 weeks maybe.

    I have never taken HCG before so should i take 2 or 3 low doses over a 12 day peroid and how long should i run the CLOMID and at what dose ?? i cant thank ye enough for helping me out of this terrible situation i am in !

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    A 'friend' is telling me to take the 3 HCG snap off bottles which are 25OO the first week but i think 12 days is better with 20 mg nolva each day and then start the clomid after the last shot which will last 3 weeks.

    Is 2500 what i need to get my boys back right or should i take weaker HCG ? thanks .

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