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    Second cycle opinions?? Test e plus Eq

    Hey guys about to begin my second cycle and needed some opinions/help.. First of all my first cycle was test e 500mg/week and i made pretty decent gains from that.. My current stats are 6ft tall, about 200lbs and about 14% bf.. I am looking to begin my second cycle and here is what i have planned please let me know what to change/ how to improve...

    Weeks 1-12: 400mg/week Equipoise
    Weeks 1-13: 500mg/week test enanthate
    Weeks 1-4: 100mg EOD test Prop
    Weeks 14-15: 100mg EOD test prop

    PCT week 16-19: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    Also got arimidex on hand to use during cycle if needed 0.25mg EOD

    I can also get some hcg and thinking of incorporating this and not sure or whether it is necessary????
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    I have read several opinions on this form and they said Eq being a waste of money. Sorry I have no facts to back this up. I will try to find the post that a vet wrote about eq.
    i was told the best 2nd cycle is test/deca . But i am sure others may disagree

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    Equipoise is more or less rubbish and not worth the risk/reward. Many people require stupid-high dosages (800-1000mg/wk) just to get a little bit of vascularity and be hungry 24/7. It also increases RBC count and at that high of a dosage your Blood Pressure can go through the roof. Not too mention your pinning 3CC's/week (or more) of just EQ. Some people respond well to EQ, but why spend all that money and risk when you could just choose a better compound. HCG is definitely necessary. Read the PCT stickies to understand why as I don't feel knowledgeable enough to give you an answer without making a mistake or giving poor advice.

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    Really i have had soo many good responses saying Eq was far better than deca .. i wanted to try and stay away from deca cause of the negative side effects i dont want to end up with a deca dic*.. Any other compounds that could be suggested to stack test e with other than Eq or deca??

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontazya View Post
    Really i have had soo many good responses saying Eq was far better than deca.. i wanted to try and stay away from deca cause of the negative side effects i dont want to end up with a deca dic*.. Any other compounds that could be suggested to stack test e with other than Eq or deca??
    What are your stats?

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    Stats are im 24 years of age.. 200lbs and 14 %bf. about 6ft tall.. been training about 5 years now and did first cycle of test e last year for 10 weeks 500mg/week

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    Solid cycle! Eq wont pack on alot of size but its great for your joints and endurance in the gym! and vascularity is out of this world! alot of guys dont like it because they dont see that massive jump in size right away (which is mostly water) so they wright it off and say it sucks but I like it! If your some what lean you will like the way it makes you look! wouldnt use it on its own but with test its a great stack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontazya View Post
    Stats are im 24 years of age.. 200lbs and 14 %bf. about 6ft tall.. been training about 5 years now and did first cycle of test e last year for 10 weeks 500mg/week
    I would say refocus on your diet for atleast another 6-8 months and try to get down to 200-205 lbs @ 12% Bodyfat. Your PCT is also off, I'd go to the PCT section and read Swifto's Q&A (ALL 14 PAGES) and the stickies. More compounds doesn't always mean better results. If you got great results from just Test (I assume you weren't frontloading either), just continue with Test (possibly at a slightly higher dosage), or add one other compound, or frontload, or kickstart with dbol .

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