1st steroid cycle need info

[jbird250]

ok guys, Im 21 and 6ft tall i have been working out and training for about 5 years. im looking to do my 1st cycle just looking for some info. i have done a 6 week cycle of h drol a while back and it was ok ,kept most of my gains. but now looking to do the real stuff.
cycle
1 – 12 test Enan 500mg/wk split in half 250 twice a week
have tamodex (Nolva) in case Gynecomastia .

pct
tamodex(nolva)
2 weeks at 20m a day last 2 weeks at 10m a day
let me know if there is anything i should add to this besides more roids. just looking to do test e for my frist time.thanks

[38jumper38]

To young for that should wait few years.

[jbird250]

i know that im a few years from doing it but im ready to try it once and the next time i do it i will be much older. but
is it necessary to take a AI arimidex and nolva while on cycle? so it would look like this

1 – 12 test Enan 500mg
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED doing pct 2 weeks after last test e
pct 4 weeks
2 weeks nolva 20m everday
2 weeks nolva 10m everday

[38jumper38]

how much you weight?

[jbird250]

weight is 175 with about 8 or 9 percent body fat i would say , eating about 4 to 5000 cals diet is good

[38jumper38]

no offense,but if you eating that call and say carbs and protein, you should be more that 175.

[rabidsquirrel]

if your gonna do it and you most likey are 500mg of test a week is good first cycle. id only pin once a week but do as you please

[jbird250]

my weight is going up little by little i started eating about that many cals about a month and a half.my metabolism is fast and its hard to gain.

[jbird250]

so no L-dex or nolva in cycle,just use nolva for pct?

[marcus300]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-a-first-cycle

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment

[rabidsquirrel]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-a-first-cycle

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment

i am gonna print this out. i just went over this with a neighbor kid that is 17 and plays football(his a F'in gaint anyways 6'4" 270 pound of almost all muscle) but he was wanting to juice and i keep telling him to wait because he hasnt reach his full potental yet.

[jbird250]

ok i understand everthing but im gunna do it any way.but is this good for a frist timer and do i need to add
L-dex or nolva in cycle, or just use nolva for pct? for 4 weeks

[jbird250]

ok i understand everthing but im gunna do it any way.but is this good for a frist timer and do i need to add
L-dex or nolva in cycle, or just use nolva for pct? for 4 weeks

[songdog]

No you understand.You arent old enough if we get you advice and you start to have problems.The 1st thing you are going to start crying.I was told this on Steroid .com.Now I cant have sex I am depressed.This is the kind of publicty we dont want or need.So if you are going to do them it will be on your own.

[jbird250]

i dont know what you are talking about im just looking for a little advise on the cycle im going to run. i know i have a little more to grow b for useing and im doing this on my own will . not looking to blame people for what im doing.but thanks songdog lol i dont blame people for the things i do just looking for people that can help on the way.

[songdog]

Sorry bro house rule no cycle advice for people under age.