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    dont feel i would have enough for my cycle

    i have
    nandrolone decanoate 250mg/ml
    im doing deca once a week

    i also have testosterone cypionate 300mg/ml
    im doing this once a week

    now i dont know if this will last 10weeks for first cycle..
    i also have liver pills.

    my shots how many ?? my friend said 1cc each for 10 weeks i only have one of each so help need to know if this will be enough..

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    well what are your stats?
    you have 1 10ml vial of each?

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    is this your first cycle? those dosages are ok for a first cycle, i would go 500mg cyp a week though. if u have 300mg/ml then u could shoot it twice a week, 600mg is a bit high for a first cycle but its not outrageous imo. i know people who have gone higher first cycle without to many sides.

    post ur stats aswell.

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    post your stats. my first cycle was 250mg per week test and i gained 30lbs!

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    you have PCT?

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    ok i got this bottle from a bodybuilder cant say name but he seems he could be trusted.. my bottle all it says is this i iwll post pictures please let me know how much to inject and the needle idk how much... first cycle
    im 5ft tall and im looking to gain pounds of muscle nothing crazy just maybe 10 pounds.. heres the pics..


    i just want to know since they are both oil products i know i can combine them. now how much to inject so i know how much to take up to what line of each.. confused
    im 5ft tall
    115 pounds
    26
    looking for atleast 15 more pounds and lean..

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    this is all i have about 16 injections
    2 bottles.. and later on after 10 weeks im gonna get winny

    please help if anyone can draw a line where up for shot on for deca and one for tes.. idk up to where i have this n i dont know about the injection.. first timer..
    thanks everyone for prompt answers..

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    You would need at least 2 vials to complete a 10 weeks cycle, which is a minimum for those compounds.

    Before you start, it would be very beneficial to you to get an anti-estrogen compound.

    At the banner above you can order an anti-estrogen.

    You need to incorporate a "post cycle therapy " program.

    PCT is to help your body go back to its normal state before the steroids .

    1.5ml per week of each, you need to do more research.

    1.5ml/weeks equals
    Test Cyp 450mg/week
    Deca 375mg/week
    Last edited by warren916; 05-27-2011 at 11:41 AM.

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    dont have pct at all he said since is small dosage i dont need it yet .. but he will get me hg after to do .. now im also going to pick up milk tissle for liver..

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    does this look real i would not know.. and what pct to take??? advice .. and how much to take..

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    so my stats now are
    5ft tall
    115 pounds

    looking to gain about 10 to 15 pounds of muscle...

    my question is how much to inject and can someone draw a line on my shot so i know how much to take ???? please
    and i got only one vial of test and one bottle of deca is this enough for 10 week cycle??? confused still.. or do i need 2 of each?
    thanks all

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    no offense are you a male or female? the 5'ft and 115 made me ask.
    how old are you?
    and what the person is telling you isn't correct.

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    No offense, but it seems like you have not done your homework. All the questions you're asking can be found in the forums. My advice would be to read read read.

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    Read my edited reply up top.

    You need a pct, you need an antiestrogen, you dont need milk thistle.

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    i did read read but my questions are for the injection part dont know how much because if u see my pics the injection one cc seems like alot from those 2 small little vials.. will this give me 10 weeks worth or should i take less .. thats all im confused about ...
    and yes im a dude.. just short and spanish genes suck im telling you ..just looking to get muscle and look better

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    oh my.....not touching this

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    warren i understand now where do i get that stuff? and the injection how do i know how much to take dont want to take to little or to much..
    should i do pct once a week? pill form?

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    ok. Sorry just wanted to make sure.

    How old are you?

    Each vial has 10 shots of 1 ml

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    buffgator why cant u help.. i came here for help..

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    Dont start until you know what you are doing.

    You can order all you PCT stuff, and you anti estrogen from here.
    http://www.ar-r.com/

    If you need me to draw out your whole cycle, then you are not ready, do the research.

    Look up PCT, Gyno, Anti-Aromatise, SERM... you should have knowledge of all of these things before you start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    ok. Sorry just wanted to make sure.

    How old are you?

    Each vial has 10 shots of 1 ml
    ok so one shot of each how much do i take ?how do i know how much and can u please help me in the right direction because i need to know where to go up to on my injection for deca and test???

    so these 2 little bottles are good for 10weeks?? is one of each one test one deca

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    How long have you been training for?
    What does your diet consist of?

    Do you understand that steroids mainly increase protein synthesis?

    Without adequate calorie/protein intake you cannot benefit from using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren916 View Post
    1.5ml per week of each, you need to do more research.

    1.5ml/weeks equals
    Test Cyp 450mg/week
    Deca 375mg/week
    Are you reading anything we are telling you!!????

    Research Deca dosages, Test cypionate dosages... Use your brain bro.

    You should really only be running one compound your first cycle, and that should be Testosterone only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren916;56****2
    Are you reading anything we are telling you!!????

    Research Deca dosages, Test cypionate dosages... Use your brain bro.
    iam using my brain bro i just dont understand the injection part thats all bro?
    and yes im reading but seems another world to me when u start talking 450mg here and 300 here confuses me .. now
    i just wanted to know how much to take.. get me of each for this to last me 10weeks.
    and my diet goes 5meals a day this includes 2 mass gainner shakes a day in this 5 meals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren916;56****2
    Are you reading anything we are telling you!!????

    Research Deca dosages, Test cypionate dosages... Use your brain bro.

    You should really only be running one compound your first cycle, and that should be Testosterone only.
    no i did not start yet looking to get my gear togethr first thats why i came here. PCT i will take your advice def and i did read about it is just seems that since my friend said is not that bad for starters i wont needd it ... but no i dont want you to write my whole cycle but if you can it would answer alot of my confusion...
    if u could help me a lot it be great...
    and how many cc looking to do this for 10 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka24et;56****7
    iam using my brain bro i just dont understand the injection part thats all bro?
    and yes im reading but seems another world to me when u start talking 450mg here and 300 here confuses me .. now
    i just wanted to know how much to take.. get me of each for this to last me 10weeks.
    and my diet goes 5meals a day this includes 2 mass gainner shakes a day in this 5 meals.
    How old are you?
    And eating 3 meals a day + 2 shakes isnt good
    to be honest if you can't understand 450 mg then you arent ready to be doing this. Think about it you are injecting drugs into your body. The stuff you have isnt going to go bad. Just put them in a drawer until you learn and understand all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka24et View Post
    no i did not start yet looking to get my gear togethr first thats why i came here. PCT i will take your advice def and i did read about it is just seems that since my friend said is not that bad for starters i wont needd it ... but no i dont want you to write my whole cycle but if you can it would answer alot of my confusion...
    if u could help me a lot it be great...
    and how many cc looking to do this for 10 weeks
    Your friend isnt telling you the correct things. When your ready to cycle you need to get another bottle of test. I would forget about the deca you dont need it. Also you need to get PCT first. Do not start until you do those things first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    How old are you?
    And eating 3 meals a day + 2 shakes isnt good
    to be honest if you can't understand 450 mg then you arent ready to be doing this. Think about it you are injecting drugs into your body. The stuff you have isnt going to go bad. Just put them in a drawer until you learn and understand all this.
    totally understand this now so please lead to the right direction. so i learn about shots and everything else that could help me..
    thanks all but i will wait longer to read more figure i had this down but apparently not..
    im gonna get pct
    and please send all the help u can

    26years old

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    why not deca ???

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    start by reading the educational thread up top.
    There is diet section here read on there and then post your diet up in that section for some help.
    You can get your pct from ar-r up top

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    start by reading the educational thread up top.
    There is diet section here read on there and then post your diet up in that section for some help.
    You can get your pct from ar-r up top
    will do thanks and i will wait. but why not deca ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka24et View Post
    will do thanks and i will wait. but why not deca ??
    few reasons. But to make it simple. You dont need it for a 1st cycle. Also you have no idea how your body is going to react to steroids . So if you are taking multiple items and get side effects you dont know what drug is causing it.

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    true ok so ill get one bottle of test.. and do it for 10 weeks. and when i have my pct ready .. gonna read more.
    can you do a write up for me on test ..cycle only or do i have to read

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka24et View Post
    true ok so ill get one bottle of test.. and do it for 10 weeks. and when i have my pct ready .. gonna read more.
    can you do a write up for me on test ..cycle only or do i have to read
    what do you mean by a write up for test only cycle?

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    sorry bro but you are so not ready for this...your under weight by a long shot wich leads me to beleive you have no idea how to eat to grow...without this base of information about diet all the steroids in the world will not help you....not to mention you havent really gotten the grasp of aas and what all the counpounds are for...i cant for the life of me understand why peeps want to start out running before they have even learned how to walk yet, what ever happened to earning it?......aas are not magic so dont expect to much if you go through with this.......im curious though, how many years have you been training?...also please tell me you have more than one pin for your cycle....

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    you have to read.. but to answer ur ahot question.. 1cc is equal to 1 ml.. when a product says 275mg or 300mg or whatever mg per ml u have to take a full cc to get the full amount of milligrams. On your needle each big number is a ml/ cc

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    What they are trying to tell you is if you are not consuming enough food, the steroids wont help you. The do not magically make you big. And one needs a good training base so that you do not injure yourself in the gym. I am thinking you should be able to gain the weight you are wanting pretty easily by just eating. Eat heavy and clean, and you will gain.
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    You have so much more you need to learn. Yes, I have only one cycle under me and about to start my second in two days. I studied for 7 months before first pin. It seems you want them to hold your hand and do everything for you. You need to know how to measure this stuff out. If you don't understand from the years of experience on here, there are thousands of medical web pages that have pictures too. As far as your inventory, you should have more than the bare minimal for one cycle, plus more that the minimal pct. This stuff is worth the time and effort it takes to understand them. Good luck
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    Thank you all and no I won't start my first cycle . And I have been training for 3 years but since I'm always running I can't gain weight. I'm gonna post my diet and see what I get and the injections I understand 1cc equals the amount of mg per ml got it . All I wanted to know if my little bottles where good for 10 weeks that's all but .. no I won't start I'm gonna learn to eat to grow. Thank for all the good answers

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    nandrolone decanoate 250mg/ml
    im doing deca once a week

    i also have testosterone cypionate 300mg/ml
    im doing this once a week

    what pct to use? i read a lot about pct.. im thinking clmoid but others have other opinons?
    just gathering info here so i know what to get

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