Experienced cycle advice....

**donberry427** · 05-30-2011, 04:52 PM

Avail AAS:

Prop 200mg/ml
Tren ace 100mg/ml
winstrol 50mg tabs
Masteron 100mg/ml

Avail pct:
Hcg
Adex
Clomid

Cycle:
week 1 - 100mg prop eod
week 2 - 75mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace ed, 25mg winny
week 3 - same
week 4 - same up winny to 50mg split am/pm (25,25)
week 5 - same
week 6 - same
week 7 - up winny to 75mg am/afternoon/pm (25,25,25)
week 8 - prop 75 mg ed, winny 75mg ed am/aft/pm
week 9 - prop 75 mg ed
week 10 - pct 3 days after last inject clomid 100mg ed
week 11- clomid 100mg ed
week 12 - clomid 50mg ed
week 13 - clomid 25mg ed

adex @ .25mg eod 15 weeks
Hcg @ 250 x 2 every week until last shot, 2000 shot on last inject (hcg during pct?)

also have accutane for use during pct or after pct (acne prone after cycle)

my question is should i drop the winny? ... ive had great strength and size gains from winny and i really want to use it during this cycle. problem is it really f's my joints up (my shoulder has inflamation, also my opposite elbow). I also want to use winny becuase its a dht and adding a dht compound helps with prolactin sides from tren.... I have access to masteron though and its a dht compound... would it be a better decision to use the masteron at 50mg ed? i havent used masteron yet but i would expect to see quality gains becuase of how well i respond to winstrol, also im around 10% bf right now... so i would definitly notice the hardness/cut....

also how important is it to use caber? im not gyno prone so i wouldnt expect to much gyno from this cycle, especially if i use hcg and adex (or the masteron, and i would prob drop the adex til pct)

advice/critque?

**Gucks** · 05-30-2011, 05:25 PM

how many previous cycles have u had?. check out machine's log:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...shot-cycle-log

same compounds as u except for winny.

**donberry427** · 05-30-2011, 08:05 PM

I really dont have a source for caber so Im adding proviron 1-14 50mg ed.... it almost seems necessary in this cycle right?

edit: is adex redundant if i run proviron? ...

**donberry427** · 05-30-2011, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Gucks

how many previous cycles have u had?. check out machine's log:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...shot-cycle-log

same compounds as u except for winny.

intresting thread... i like the diet ideas... not too much about the cycle/lifter... lol he has 20% bf no wonder he is gaining so much weight

oh and this is my first injectable cycle... ed pin for my first should be intresting

**Gucks** · 05-31-2011, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by donberry427

intresting thread... i like the diet ideas... not too much about the cycle/lifter... lol he has 20% bf no wonder he is gaining so much weight

oh and this is my first injectable cycle... ed pin for my first should be intresting

ye his bf is questionable :P and if this is ur first cycle then tren a isnt a gr8 idea. its one of the strongest anabolics there is, which means it can have the strongest side affects. keep it simple for a first proper cycle man. i would say ditch masteron and oral winny, just run a test with an oral kicker if u like and maybe some deca /injectable winny.

**marcus300** · 05-31-2011, 12:47 PM

stats?
cycle history?
yrs training?

**donberry427** · 05-31-2011, 04:49 PM

I'm not going to get into a argument about why I shouldn't do this cycle... I want gains I can keep and honestly I know I will keep a solid 20 lbs from this cycle.... Sure I could do a test cycle and lose everything a month after cycle... Even if I add Winny or mast its not even worth it imho...

If the tren sides are too bad ill cut back to 25mg ed.... I've done research research research and this is one for true mass ... And with Winny and Proviron in there I should control sides imo .... This shit is costing me 800 bucks so it better be worth it.

... I just want to know what to look out for while on this cycle