does ejaculation hinder gains?

**pheenyx1** · 06-01-2011, 03:47 PM

I am on my first cycle (test prop 75mg/ed) and the libido thing is INSANE! I am 41 years old, and I feel like a 16 yo who snuck into a strip club. Will the protien and energy I spend if I allow myself to just go w/ it hinder gains? We are talking about 3 times a day w/o a partner, and with one, god, I lost count the other night.

**Pac Man** · 06-01-2011, 03:51 PM

Ha no and even if it did, who cares?
I read one study saying that testosterone was at its highest on the 7th day of abstinence but than decreased slightly after that. Meaning, rub one off every 7 days for better gains!
In all seriousness, no. It'll just make you kinda lazy and bring you into a caloric deficit if you **** like a champ. Get your cardio in

**baseline_9** · 06-01-2011, 03:53 PM

No it will not...

And if your lucky someone will post the study that shows the optimal ejaculation frequency to actually increase T production slightly....

Not sure it this will be of relevance while Natty T is suppressed while on cycle however.

**baseline_9** · 06-01-2011, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ironside

Ha no and even if it did, who cares?
I read one study saying that testosterone was at its highest on the 7th day of abstinence but than decreased slightly after that. Meaning, rub one off every 7 days for better gains!
In all seriousness, no. It'll just make you kinda lazy and bring you into a caloric deficit if you **** like a champ. Get your cardio in

Im not the only one who has read this study in the past then

**Bigd89** · 06-01-2011, 03:55 PM

I usually bang the wife right before my workout. Seems to wake me up and give me energy for some weird reason

**baseline_9** · 06-01-2011, 03:59 PM

I wank my self off until im just about to cum....

I then go the the gym and im like a predator....

LOL JK, but maybe i would work, might get aggression up

**pheenyx1** · 06-01-2011, 04:09 PM

I wasn't actually sayin I was gonna stop, but its nice to know it won't interfere. Gotta say, test prop: BIG fan!

**pheenyx1** · 06-01-2011, 04:10 PM

Will be starting my log soon. As soon as I get some pics organized. Maybe I should include extracuricular escapades, for "scientific" purposes. Jk

**Ashop** · 06-01-2011, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by pheenyx1

I am on my first cycle (test prop 75mg/ed) and the libido thing is INSANE! I am 41 years old, and I feel like a 16 yo who snuck into a strip club. Will the protien and energy I spend if I allow myself to just go w/ it hinder gains? We are talking about e times a day w/o a partner, and with one, god, I lost count the other night.

No it will not. ENJOY sex!!! Dont refrain it wont hurt your gains a bit.

**38jumper38** · 06-01-2011, 07:05 PM

Good to know, more sex now.

**Pac Man** · 06-01-2011, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by pheenyx1

Will be starting my log soon. As soon as I get some pics organized. Maybe I should include extracuricular escapades, for "scientific" purposes. Jk

Hope your girl is ok with all the photos youll be taking :P

**bodybuilder** · 06-01-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

I wank my self off until im just about to cum....

I then go the the gym and im like a predator....

LOL JK, but maybe i would work, might get aggression up

Lol it actually sounds like a good idea.

**bruary17** · 06-01-2011, 07:29 PM

If I crack too many off I find that instead of wanting to work out, I want a turkey sandwich and my binky. If I go awhile without it, I feel more raw, more animalistic.

**5x10** · 06-01-2011, 07:40 PM

if it does, then ive lost a TON of gains this cycle

**Mrich13** · 06-01-2011, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by 5x10

if it does, then ive lost a TON of gains this cycle

Lmao

**pheenyx1** · 06-01-2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ironside

Hope your girl is ok with all the photos youll be taking :P

I don't have a girl. Fortunately, I work n a bar at the Jersey Shore, so I. Don't lack for opportunity.

**DGK** · 06-01-2011, 08:56 PM

I really enjoy ****ing my girl after a good workout. I have my own gym in our house so its real nice to be able to go beast mode in the gym then just take the wife wherever i find her..lol and she likes it to considering how low my libido was b4 i started to cycle... and i jack off at least once a day too and i seem to be making gains just fine..

**Bigd89** · 06-01-2011, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by pheenyx1

I don't have a girl. Fortunately, I work n a bar at the Jersey Shore, so I. Don't lack for opportunity.

So, how's Ronnie and the situation doin?? Are they huge in real life?? Lmao

**Far from massive** · 06-01-2011, 09:10 PM

The only trouble I found with the uncontrolled sex desire is when the other half is not in the mood self abuse aggravates my tennis elbow worse than cocking the wrist while doing curls.

**pheenyx1** · 06-01-2011, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bigd89

So, how's Ronnie and the situation doin?? Are they huge in real life?? Lmao

The Situation and Snooky come in all the time when they aren't filming. I don't care how annoying they are, they are both big spenders and good tippers.
They do give us year round jersey shore natives a bad name, though.

**nguadagno** · 06-01-2011, 10:09 PM

fellow jerseyan? jerseyite? myself, was just down there this weekend, gotta love MDW down the shore, anywho, i dont understand one thing though, how come when your on cycle i either hear about people constantly have just hard ons 24/7 or they cant get it up? like i hear all this stuff about during cycle take HCG so you still can do whatever but idk, maybe im just retarded, can someone explain this better to me, dont mean to hijack this thread, i figure its a close topic

**Shol'va** · 06-01-2011, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

The only trouble I found with the uncontrolled sex desire is when the other half is not in the mood self abuse aggravates my tennis elbow worse than cocking the wrist while doing curls.

Go to the next dairy farm auction and bid on an old hamilton beach electric dairy milker and plug yourself into it at home like it's milking an old cow. Just keep the lid on the container bucket while in use or you'll have a lot of spew all over the room. Takes the pressure off your tennis elbow.

**RoidReaper** · 06-01-2011, 11:08 PM

I hear ejaculation on roids make you turn gay...

Cmon seriously with these questions? Jeesh lol.

**pheenyx1** · 06-01-2011, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by nguadagno

fellow jerseyan? jerseyite? myself, was just down there this weekend, gotta love MDW down the shore, anywho, i dont understand one thing though, how come when your on cycle i either hear about people constantly have just hard ons 24/7 or they cant get it up? like i hear all this stuff about during cycle take HCG so you still can do whatever but idk, maybe im just retarded, can someone explain this better to me, dont mean to hijack this thread, i figure its a close topic

As I understand it, the problem is not what happens on cycle, it is after the cycle. To put it simply, our nuts react to the flood of test by saying "oh shit, we made too much!" and taking a vacation. The longer and more completely they shut down, the more difficult and uncertain it is when the foreign test is gone for them to get working again. On cycle we use HCG to trick them into continueing to make test (added benefit, more test!) Post cycle we use HCG to kickstart them from the shutdown. From what I have heard, there are other compounds that actually can cause impotence on cycle, but with test, the HCG is just to keep the boys workin. There are some great threads and stickies about this that explain it much more scientifically, and in more detail, but that is this noobs limited understanding. Enough to know I'm gonna take HCG!

**Honkey_Kong** · 06-02-2011, 04:16 AM

Didn't you guys learn anything in high school sex ed class? Don't jerk off, you'll go blind. hahahahhahah

**nguadagno** · 06-02-2011, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by pheenyx1

As I understand it, the problem is not what happens on cycle, it is after the cycle. To put it simply, our nuts react to the flood of test by saying "oh shit, we made too much!" and taking a vacation. The longer and more completely they shut down, the more difficult and uncertain it is when the foreign test is gone for them to get working again. On cycle we use HCG to trick them into continueing to make test (added benefit, more test!) Post cycle we use HCG to kickstart them from the shutdown. From what I have heard, there are other compounds that actually can cause impotence on cycle, but with test, the HCG is just to keep the boys workin. There are some great threads and stickies about this that explain it much more scientifically, and in more detail, but that is this noobs limited understanding. Enough to know I'm gonna take HCG!

yeah thats what i figured for the most part, but i just always hear people say "how are you gonna explain not being able to get hard for 16 weeks" or whatever and i never understood the two contradicting statements

**Quinny** · 06-02-2011, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by pheenyx1

I am on my first cycle (test prop 75mg/ed) and the libido thing is INSANE! I am 41 years old, and I feel like a 16 yo who snuck into a strip club. Will the protien and energy I spend if I allow myself to just go w/ it hinder gains? We are talking about 3 times a day w/o a partner, and with one, god, I lost count the other night.

Cum is stress protein it doesnt effect muscle building in any way

**PK-V** · 06-02-2011, 08:38 AM

Check out as much boobs and ass in the gym as possible (female preferably LOL)

And or watch some p0rns (with out letting you hands drift below deck) before lifting and you will be like an V10 engine at 9000rpm in the gym

studies back this up

**bruary17** · 06-02-2011, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

I wank my self off until im just about to cum....

I then go the the gym and im like a predator....

LOL JK, but maybe i would work, might get aggression up

This does work, also works well if your about to go out looking for chicks makes you more aggressive.

**baseline_9** · 06-02-2011, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by bruary17

This does work, also works well if your about to go out looking for chicks makes you more aggressive.

LOL

I can see how it may work in the gym but not when looking for girls LOL

maybe if a girl was to flick her bean b4 she went out you may have more of a chance with her but certainly not the other way around....

**brad1986** · 06-02-2011, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

I wank my self off until im just about to cum....

I then go the the gym and im like a predator....

LOL JK, but maybe i would work, might get aggression up

hahaha lmfao

**RoidReaper** · 06-02-2011, 11:43 AM

I have heard ejaculation raises DHT.

**JimmySidewalk** · 06-02-2011, 11:51 AM

I heard self-ejaculating makes you go blind... or even worse, hairy palms !

**RoidReaper** · 06-02-2011, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by JimmySidewalk

I heard self-ejaculating makes you go blind... or even worse, hairy palms !

*Everyone stops and looks at their palms* lol

**bruary17** · 06-02-2011, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

LOL

I can see how it may work in the gym but not when looking for girls LOL

maybe if a girl was to flick her bean b4 she went out you may have more of a chance with her but certainly not the other way around....

baseline, don't jerk off for like 5 or 6 days, look at porn, slap it around a little bit but don't crack one off. Then go out with your buddy's and watch and see if it don't make you more aggressive towards the ladies. I swear by it. You'll find then when approaching a lady it's almost as if your hips guide you. And you can't keep your eyes off their tits and ass.

**pheenyx1** · 06-02-2011, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by bruary17

baseline, don't jerk off for like 5 or 6 days, look at porn, slap it around a little bit but don't crack one off. Then go out with your buddy's and watch and see if it don't make you more aggressive towards the ladies. I swear by it. You'll find then when approaching a lady it's almost as if your hips guide you. And you can't keep your eyes off their tits and ass.

I endorse this theory. It can also lead to some questionable decisions, though. It skews my 1 to 10 scale pretty badly. Gives everyone a +2.5.