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    Question 5th Cycle Input is Appreciated

    OK so going ahead and gettin back on the growin train this summer ive outlined something relatively simple but still has lots of compounds and is geared towards lots of lean mass/ strength gains that i can really show off when next year at uni. I'm 25, this is my 5th cycle, im currently a very lean 185lbs and looking to gain weight without increasing my waitline or even my muscle size that much (density).
    Weeks 1-16 Test E 750mg/Week
    Weeks 1-16 Mast E 600mg/Week
    Weeks 1-14 EQ 600mg/Week
    Weeks 1-6 T-Bol 60mg/Daily
    Weeks 11-17 Var 30mg/Daily
    Weeks 11-17 Win 30mg/Daily

    PCT
    Weeks 1-18 HCG 500iu/Week
    Weeks 1-18 Aromasin 25mg/Daily (Or EOD gonna see how it goes)
    Weeks 18-24 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20 (I feel safer running it longer i usually do it this way for long cycles)
    Weeks 18-24 Clomid 100/100/50/50/50/50 (Again, gonna see how it goes, how the boys are doin at this point)

    Any thought or opinions? One main question would be thoughts on including Tren E? Experiences with Tren? I've never used it personally for fear of sides but this cycle feels like it could be worth it. $$$ not an issue.

    My diet is very clean i eat chicken breasts and whey or casein protein, Oatmeal and Sweet potatoes. Sometimes i'll treat myself to ceasar salad if i have the time try to avoid moreoften though becasue of saturated fat and sodium, etc. etc.
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    What are your other stats: height? body fat?

    What were your previous cycles?

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    I'm 5'10"
    My first two cycles were Test E and T-bol
    Cycle 3 added in EQ var/winny
    Cycle 4 same thing hardened up with mast instead of winny

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    everything looks fine to me. PCT will start week 19 though. you pin 16, off 17 and 18, pct starts week 19.

    that may be what you meant, just pointing out clerical error.

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    5'10, 185lbs and 5 cycles deep. Something isn't right man.

    I understand that not everyone wants to be huge, but if that's the case, then you don't need steroids .

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    ^^^^ good point

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    I dont know why you would take that large of a cycle if you werent trying to increase muscle size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEUSS View Post
    I'm 5'10"
    My first two cycles were Test E and T-bol
    Cycle 3 added in EQ var/winny
    Cycle 4 same thing hardened up with mast instead of winny
    dude, im 19, 6"3 185lbs with ~11% bf. u have 5 cycles done, wht were u b4 u started gear..? as D7M said, somethings not right. hows ur diet and training..?

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