any safe cutting aas for a 20yr old?

**dooby78** · 06-10-2011, 12:56 AM

ive tried to reserch, havnt come up with much, my younger brother really wants to cut for summer...fast.. go figure, hes 5'10" 185lbs and id guess 25-30% he does drink lots of water and eat helthy with cardio, just wants something to help him cut faster (4-8 weeks)

**Lecent83** · 06-10-2011, 01:04 AM

his natural test lvl's are high enough to but weight with a clean diet and very hard training. best thing he can do is take work out recovery stuff like bcaa's/ L-glutemine. Drink tons of water, take a multi vitamin and do cardio twice a day an hour at a time.

keep in mind rest is important and working outside of your target heart rate can be catabolic.

220-(your age) is the typical highest heart rate you want to see during cardio

cycle carbs:

low
high
med
low
med
low
high

something that will keep your body guessing and the weight should fall off to as high as 4-5lbs a week...

**marcus300** · 06-10-2011, 01:56 AM

No there are no safe AAS for someone at 20yrs old, he needs to look at his diet and cardio protocol to get cut and use what he's got naturally.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ids&highlight=

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

**baseline_9** · 06-10-2011, 03:35 AM

You do not need AAS to cut and you certainly dont need them at 25-30% BF

Head over to the doet section and post up your planned cutting diet and cardio schedule for review

**songdog** · 06-10-2011, 05:37 AM

diet diet diet.

**Slartbox** · 06-10-2011, 06:56 AM

God NO not at 20 bro!@ maybe you can do alot of research tho just dont bother till your like 27 minimum imo really should be older but i cant talk dont break the seal early !@

**pstacks** · 06-10-2011, 07:23 AM

Yes, the diet forum here is really great. It's amazing how crazy the results will be when someone is dedicated enough to plan and stay with a diet with the help of experts. There are some seriously knowledgeable people on this board.

Good luck!

**Slartbox** · 06-10-2011, 07:24 AM

Yer and at 20 he has so much to acheive! wish i could relive 20 again with my diet lol

**jtuner77** · 06-10-2011, 07:59 AM

Diet diet diet, cardio cardio cardio, IF he is already doing cardio have him either raise the intensity on ss cardio by upping his hr to something a little more aggressive OR taking a crack at HIIT.

**Lemonada8** · 06-10-2011, 08:09 AM

diet!
cardio!
HIIT!

personally, i would do a placebo cycle for him. give him some crap pill and say its gear, but then proceed to show him its all diet and exercise. He would see good gains w/ no sides

but i like to play with peoples heads like that to show them what they wont listen to

**choo9** · 06-10-2011, 03:08 PM

I know everyone is push the diet section, but they're right. You.... I mean your brother, could definitely benefit from reading the advice from some experienced gym rats on there. As you've heard before, 20 is too young and will do more harm than good.

**CLAYWILKES** · 06-10-2011, 03:47 PM

In the long run doing any aas at 20yo is going to have far more cons than pros. A friend of mine did too many aas too young and is still in a bad way 8 years later. Dude, just research and read... Then repeat.
Good luck