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06-20-2011, 10:06 PM #1New Member
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First Cycle Test-E Questions
So I just got some gear, and I'm going to run a test-e cycle. Here are my stats: 23, 6'3", 175 lbs.
I'm going to run 500mg/week of test-e, and I'd like a lot of advice on this:
Test-E:
1. I'm guessing i should inject 250mg/1mL 2x per week instead of 500mg/2mL 1x per week, am I right?
2. I've got a skinny ass, should I still use 25g, 1.1/2" syringes or should I switch them up to 1"?
Nolvadex :
1. I'm almost positive I should pick up Nolva in case of gyno. So if I start to experience gyno I would take it at 20 mg/day correct? I've seen a lot of conflicting information on when and how to use Nolva.
2. If I don't experience any gyno, should I use Nolva for PCT or on-cycle?
hCG :
1. Should I use hCG at all for a pure test-e cycle?
2. Does it matter that it's my first cycle?
3. If I should take it, how much should I take each week?
4. Is it alright to combine hCG and test-e into one syringe to keep shots per week at two?
-- Thanks
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06-20-2011, 11:18 PM #2
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06-20-2011, 11:20 PM #3
Question: 6'3" & 175 pounds.....
Wouldn't you rather add some weight from food first before a cycle? You would have much better results. Think about it.Life is too short, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly and forgive quickly.Author Unknown
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06-20-2011, 11:22 PM #4
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06-20-2011, 11:49 PM #5
A proper diet and training for the next 2 years will yield you some great gains, save gear use for the future.
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06-21-2011, 12:21 AM #6New Member
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Thanks Jayhav2p, and I get the points from SlimmerMe and Noles12. I do have to say though, I played wide receiver in HS at 195 lbs. I dropped that weight because I haven't had the willpower since teammates aren't pressuring me to keep my weight up. Also I drop weight fast and I always felt like that weight I gained was too soft. I know that if I jump into this I will feel obligated to get out there every morning and lift until I feel a real change in my mental and physical.
All that being said, I know it's not a miracle drug, but I already have the test-e, I'm not just gonna let it rot in my drawer. So I get the cautionary advice, but I'm past that point, and I would like advice about how to stay safe. Jayhav2p--you had a ton of good input, and thanks for the info about AI, but it completely contradicts Steroid Cycle Novice I listed on this very website. So I'm looking for other people to either agree with or refute whether or not I should go Aromasin over Nolva if I start to feel gyno issues. Plus Aromasin/exemestane is too expensive per tab from my source...Last edited by st29; 06-21-2011 at 02:00 AM.
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06-21-2011, 01:35 AM #7
Your thinking is flawed and shows you are not ready for AAS.
So im guessing you are on and off with the gym now?
AAS should be used to aide in building muscle after a consistent diet and training routine are in place for an extended period of time. You need to build a base first. Right now you are taking the easy way out.
If you arent motivated to workout and diet right now then steroids arent going to change thatLast edited by Noles12; 06-21-2011 at 01:39 AM.
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06-21-2011, 01:40 AM #8
Also price discussion is against the board rules. You need to edit that price out of your post
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06-21-2011, 02:13 AM #9New Member
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Alright I edited price, I get it.. but I'm doing this anyway and would appreciate help doing it right. I have been on consistent training and diet for past month... I realize that's nowhere near standards, but I'm jumping into this no matter what so I want help, not lecturing. I've been drinking whey, taking supplements, following things I've found on other sites about eating clean and loading protein, all that stuff. I have extremely personal reasons for doing this that I'm not gonna bring up on here, but there is no way I'm changing my mind about this... so please--no more lecturing just help me do it as safe as possible.
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06-21-2011, 02:20 AM #10
Im not trying to lecture you. Just trying to help.
I personally do not think there is a proper way of going about cycling when you havent been consistent in your training and diet. I dont think you realize how many people i have dealt with that spend a month working out then just stop. Until you can devote your time towards it for a few years i do not think you are ready.
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06-21-2011, 03:12 AM #11
Agreed with the above. You are asking for help and it is being given to you, you are just choosing not to listen. Would you help someone do something if you knew it was the wrong thing to do? How do you help someone do the wrong thing safely? It's still the wrong thing.
You need to step back and look at the big picture. aas is not going to motivate you, it will not give you the energy to get into the gym and you will loose all of your gains as fast as you made them due to diet. If you cant grow now you cant grow and maintain using aas. Sorry but it's the simple truth.
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06-21-2011, 09:45 AM #12
This is what I am taking away from this. There is a motivation which seems urgent to you at the moment; yet not worth it in the long run. Whatever your reason is for jumping in when you are not ready, needs to really be soul searched because you are not ready. Plus since you want to gain, your gains will not remain. "tis true.
Please step back and pause. Look at the big picture. Your reason might be temporary.Life is too short, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly and forgive quickly.Author Unknown
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06-21-2011, 10:06 AM #13Member
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I'd say at your height atleast try and get to 190Lbs lean. Sure you can do it naturally in a matter of months.
Otherwise, personally I run arimidex eod ranging between 0.25 - 0.50ml depending how I feel when using test (e). This helps control estro sides. I always have nolva on hand incase gyno rears it's ugly head, but leave it for PCT.
GL whatever you decide.
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06-21-2011, 11:07 AM #14
You need to put that gear in your drawer. Look at it everyday for motivation.
Just work out for 2 months straight. Eat like a horse. Then hop on gear.
I totally understand not being motivated unless your "on".
you are not going to be happy with the cycle results, at least not nearly as happy as you should be.
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06-21-2011, 03:28 PM #15New Member
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Alright, thanks everyone for your help. I'm going to delay taking these a little bit after the overwhelming number of cautionary responses, but I want to get my orders finished up and all this mentally sorted out now.
I'm going to go with Arimidex and hCG for on-cycle. Nolva for PCT.
Here are my remaining questions:
1. Is it advisable to use only test-e at the start (say first 4 weeks), just to see how my body reacts to testosterone alone? Or should I immediately use AI?
2. For AI, does everyone agree with .25 mg every other day of Arimidex?
3. If I start to get gyno symptoms, should I take Nolva at 40 or 20mg/day for the rest of cycle?
4. Does PCT of only Nolva at 20mg/day for 4 weeks sound good?
5. How would I do subq injections of hCG obtained in the form of 10000 IU/ml (in terms of syringes, bacteriostatic water, mixing, storage, I don't know what else)?
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06-21-2011, 03:33 PM #16
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06-21-2011, 03:43 PM #17New Member
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Thanks man
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06-21-2011, 04:09 PM #18New Member
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Alright, last question, HCG increases risk of gyno. So, should I hold off on that for first cycle and just let my nads shrink up unless I start taking AI? I've read not to take it for PCT (and the opposite), and only to take it with SERM or AI.
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