ideal weight for juicing

[Smallest]

I want to see what you guys think would be the ideal weight for someone with my body type to start juicing.

First off, I come from a family with small frame and short. I am 5'4, 140lbs, 38yrs old and 14%bf. I have always been 130lbs most of my life but in the last 6 months I managed to put on 10 lbs which I thought was amazing. A month has pasted and I tried my best to feed my body to gain more weight but it's not happening. So, I am thinking about doing a cycle to help me gain. Been working out on and off for 6 years.

How much should I weight before juicing? Any thoughts is welcome. Thanks in advance.

[DGK]

Ok first whats ur diet like? and second working out on and off for 6 yrs is not the way aas will help you. aas is not a wonder drug it helps but u still need to put in work through proper diet and consistent excersise and workout program

[Smallest]

Ok first whats ur diet like? and second working out on and off for 6 yrs is not the way aas will help you. aas is not a wonder drug it helps but u still need to put in work through proper diet and consistent excersise and workout program

I will definitely be having a proper diet and workout routine if I will be juicing. I'm just thinking it will give me the extra motivation to eat and exercise more properly. But I would like to know at 5'4" and 38 yrs old, what weight would anyone recommend before I start using juice. I am asking this question cause I want to see how far off I am in weight for my body type before stating it. This will help me by giving me a general idea first. I will work toward the ideal weight first of course. Thanks.

[ACE5HIGH]

Post picture? Im not even sure what a 5'4" 140 dude really looks like... Sorry :-p

[Honkey_Kong]

I will definitely be having a proper diet and workout routine if I will be juicing. I'm just thinking it will give me the extra motivation to eat and exercise more properly. But I would like to know at 5'4" and 38 yrs old, what weight would anyone recommend before I start using juice. I am asking this question cause I want to see how far off I am in weight for my body type before stating it. This will help me by giving me a general idea first. I will work toward the ideal weight first of course. Thanks.

If???? You should already have your diet and workout programs in check years before you start juicing. Besides that, we can't tell you what is the ideal weight to start at since people have different heights and frames. By the way at 140lbs and 14% bodyfat, you really have a lean weight of 120.4 lbs. And if using steroids is your motivation to eat and exercise properly, you're going to fail miserably. My advise to you is train and diet properly for a few years then come back here.

[Smallest]

If???? You should already have your diet and workout programs in check years before you start juicing. Besides that, we can't tell you what is the ideal weight to start at since people have different heights and frames. By the way at 140lbs and 14% bodyfat, you really have a lean weight of 120.4 lbs. And if using steroids is your motivation to eat and exercise properly, you're going to fail miserably. My advise to you is train and diet properly for a few years then come back here.

Thanks for the reply, fair enough as I thought. So my question is still unanswered, how much weight should I get to before considering aas? Thanks again.

[DGK]

There is no weight ...

[Windex]

Thanks for the reply, fair enough as I thought. So my question is still unanswered, how much weight should I get to before considering aas? Thanks again.

There is no magic weight. On/off at the gym for 6 years sounds like 3 years of actually being at the gym. You need to put in a good 2 more years at your age of serious training without breaks (maybe 2-3 weeks off out of all 52 for vacation or deload / break). If your not willing to diet properly without steroids then there is no hope for you (Not to offend you). As previously said steroids are no magic injection/pill. Dieting is the foundation to bodybuilding. You would actually look worse after doing steroids from an inadequate diet. I strongly advise you to post your current diet in the diet section and get it improved upon. If you can't gain weight naturally all you will do is bloat like a balloon on steroids.

If I had to guess, I'd say 5"4, 160 lbs, 12% bodyfat would be a good base - honestly though you need small goals. Saying I am gonna go from 140 lbs 15% bodyfat to 160 lbs 12% bodyfat is not a realistic goal at all.

[ACE5HIGH]

Are you really 38?

[Smallest]

If I had to guess, I'd say 5"4, 160 lbs, 12% bodyfat would be a good base - honestly though you need small goals. Saying I am gonna go from 140 lbs 15% bodyfat to 160 lbs 12% bodyfat is not a realistic goal at all.

This is the kind of answer I was looking for. I will try to work on building my base before considering ass. Thanks again.

[Bonaparte]

Why don't you just post a pic of yourself? That would be easiest, since your stats are very hard to gauge (due to your height).

[ACE5HIGH]

I'm not sure he will. Something strikes me as not believable about this post. I'll apply foot to mouth if I'm wrong OP, but something tells me we won't see a picture...

[Smallest]

Here it is, let me know. I pretty much tone beside my mid-section. My abs show a little on an empty stomach. Picture taken after downing a protein shake before bed.
I check around and my BMI is average for my height. Any thoughts are welcome.

Stats:
5'4"
140
14% or less (used a cheap plastic caliper)

[Bonaparte]

You can do a lot better than that naturally before using AAS.

[Smallest]

This is the reason why I am asking questions before heading in that direction. Any more thoughts are welcome.

[Windex]

I would say closer to 16-18% bodyfat hard to say though due to your height and we can't see your legs. Less than 14% seems optimistic in my opinion. Get to the diet section and post your diet. Also read my thread on Diet & Nutritional Information.

[Smallest]

If I get to 160lbs with 12%bf it's GTG? Anyone have another ideal number I can go by?

[ACE5HIGH]

I have always been 130lbs most of my life but in the last 6 months I managed to put on 10 lbs which I thought was amazing

Okay okay, thanks for the pic... Here is what I dont understand about your post, Your 38 and why is it amazing to put on 10 lbs ?? You've never gone on a food binge in your life?

Im thinking you may need to look into a heavy calorie diet and not aas just yet...

[ACE5HIGH]

No offense at all, but it doesn't look like your on a workout routine. Are you lifting heavy regularly also?

[Windex]

If I get to 160lbs with 12%bf it's GTG? Anyone have another ideal number I can go by?

If that pic is you, going to 160 lbs in 12% from where you are now BF would take roughly 16-24 months in my opinion based on motivation, dedication, genetics, etc. You don't look 38, not calling you a liar, not saying you look 18 either, but I'm also not the best at guessing ages. As previously said, go to the diet section and post up your diet for further help.

[ACE5HIGH]

If I get to 160lbs with 12%bf it's GTG? Anyone have another ideal number I can go by?

Bro, Get this out of your head!!! There isnt a magic Number!! How many times do you need to hear it? lol

Your physique just doesn't appear to be of someone who is working out and eating properly. If it did, then you may want to consider a cycle. Running AAS is not going to make you not lazy all of a sudden, it doesnt work like that. You still need to do all the work, its just an aid...

[bjpennnn]

I would say 155 at 12% bf would be a good place for you i am 5-6 i know how it is to be a little guy ha. But the good thing is when you gain ten pounds it looks like 15. I would hit up the diet section.

[Smallest]

Sorry bro. I was just looking for a recent picture to post before getting out of work. Well there is it.

[Smallest]

I never lift regularly just going to gym or hit the weight now and then only. And never was on a food BINGE, honestly.

[Smallest]

I would say 155 at 12% bf would be a good place for you i am 5-6 i know how it is to be a little guy ha. But the good thing is when you gain ten pounds it looks like 15. I would hit up the diet section.

Thank you very much, I can't ask for a better answer. I would not think it's hard at all for me to get there, even at 160 with 12%bf. Like I said, I am just looking for an ideal weight for my height before I would consider ass.

[ACE5HIGH]

I never lift regularly just going to gym or hit the weight now and then only. And never was on a food BINGE, honestly.

Im not trying to insult you... but I dont really understand why your even thinking that you need to start juicing? I mean, there is so much more you would accomplish by getting a good diet and workout routine steady. Just juicing isnt going to put some magic 25 lbs of muscle on you... The movies may have people believe that but in real life it takes A LOT of hard work in the gym and out of the gym (diet and rest). Juicing without the commitment elsewhere will most likely result in only bloat, not to mention the sides like natural test suppression, possible hair loss/gain, acne, etc...

Im not saying you need to Binge on junk food either if you looking to gain weight. BUT if your eating 5000cals clean food daily and lifting, you will get big! without sides too....

[Smallest]

Im not trying to insult you... but I dont really understand why your even thinking that you need to start juicing? I mean, there is so much more you would accomplish by getting a good diet and workout routine steady. Just juicing isnt going to put some magic 25 lbs of muscle on you... The movies may have people believe that but in real life it takes A LOT of hard work in the gym and out of the gym (diet and rest). Juicing without the commitment elsewhere will most likely result in only bloat, not to mention the sides like natural test suppression, possible hair loss/gain, acne, etc...

Im not saying you need to Binge on junk food either if you looking to gain weight. BUT if your eating 5000cals clean food daily and lifting, you will get big! without sides too....

No hard feeling here, just asking some question to clear things up and learn a few thing on the way. I guess I will concentrate more on my diet and excercise. As mention before I never really tried gaining weight or hitting the weight hard. I will do that now. Thanks for your replies.

[Honkey_Kong]

No hard feeling here, just asking some question to clear things up and learn a few thing on the way. I guess I will concentrate more on my diet and excercise. As mention before I never really tried gaining weight or hitting the weight hard. I will do that now. Thanks for your replies.

I think you should consider hiring a personal trainer to help you get your workout routine setup. You know to get you on the right track so you get results faster than you would if you started out on your own.

But yeah, I'll let you know some steroids will make you so lethargic that you really don't feel like hitting up the gym. So if you have problems lifting regularly without any juice, steroids will just make it worse.

[Windex]

I never lift regularly just going to gym or hit the weight now and then only. And never was on a food BINGE, honestly.

If this is the case you need to remove the idea of steroids from your vocabulary all together for atleast 4 year mate sorry. You need to be able to workout for 3-5 years consistently without breaks and without being on/off. This is because you need to allow your body to develop/repair/growth tendon and ligament tissue density. These are what connect your muscle to bone and bone to bone. Steroids DO NOT change how fast these components grow only time and slowly increase weight while simultaneously putting slightly more strain allows them to repair to be stronger. Muscle mass increases significantly faster compared to how your tendons and ligaments grow so when someone who has never put serious time into training goes on steroids they significantly increase their chance of injury.

I will give you an example (age and stats not relevant) of the above that I witnessed last month. A guy at the gym had been training for roughly about 1 year seriously and on/off before that but never really took it to dedication besides the last 12 months. His max bench was 225 lbs previous to cycling. Gets a little ahead of himself, not too educated and tacks on like 45 extra pounds. On his second rep he tears BOTH of his rotator cuffs because of what I was explaining above. This is the aftermath :

- Excruciating pain
- Complete embarrassment at the gym (no clue if he will come back)
- Thousands of dollars in Physiotherapy
- Hundreds of dollars for medication
- Possibly a permanent lifetime problem depending on his recovery
- Lost his job because he can't work
- Oh and to top it all off he doesn't get to go the gym until next year minimum


It doesn't matter what exercise or how much your previous best was the principle is still the same. I hope this true story has given you a wake up call that steroids are not for you any time in the near future.