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07-18-2011, 04:58 AM #1New Member
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New to steroids please help me!
Hey everyone.
I've been thinking about tryni steroids for a long time, and recently just thought that i'd give it a go as I'm not pleased with my body.
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I'm 19 years old, 177 cm tall and weight about 76KG.
I've got a "strong/wide" bone structure.
I'm not sure what my body fat % is but im between fat and normal. I dont really are bout the weight, as long as i get a nice body, well fit and strong.
I've got diabetes type 1 so the insulin helps a little, but not enough...I've been working out for a while now and I just dont see any improvements, thats why I'm going to try Steroids.
Even tho i have diabetes I do NOT want to inject anythign by needles...I hate them >.> I'm not sure hwo many types there are, but anything but needles. you may think why i dont want to as im injecting needles into my body many times a day btu i just ant sstand it, i've had to buy a special kind of needle that "shoots" it into me, and im not sure if I can use the asme kind or where to put the steroids itself.
I've read abit bout Dinabol and Anarav, dont realy know anything bout steroids so I'm really depending on you all now=/
My goal is getting a well fit body with muscles that shows, it shows that you're strong as **** and just to be proud of taking my shirt off oon the beach.
What I'd like to know:
1. What's the best steroid you know?
2. How long does it take for the steroid to work
[name of the steroid = when it starts to work]
3. How big are the side effects on the steroids you name
+++ additional info i need to know
Please reply as soon as possible as i wish to start as soon as i can.
Thanks for reading and thanks for any following replies!
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Just something to think about..
AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.
Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.
Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.
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07-18-2011, 05:10 AM #3
Welcome NOX
We do NOT condone anyone under 25 using aas (steroids ). your HPTA / endocrine (hormone) system is still developing and will continue to develop until sometime around your mid 20's. Taking aas now will disrupt that development, and could cause problems down the road. Know anything about ED? old man's disease, right? Wrong! There are many youngsters that have taken aas too early and come down with this "old man's disease". There are a variety of other problems that can develop as well.
Second. AAS should be the LAST thing you try, AFTER your diet and exercise routine are dialed in, and you have spent several years developing a natural foundation to work with.
Third. Taking AAS when your BF% (body fat) is too high can cause some feminizing symptoms like gyno (man boobs) and a few others. Your target Body Fat should be lower. Some will tell you 10% or lower, but I think 12% or 13% you can get away with if you manage it properly.
Here's what you do. Go on over to the diet section, and learn all you can on how to eat properly for weight lifting and gaining LBM (lean body mass). Fruit loops in the morning, PBJ for lunch and a big plate of spaghetti for dinner don't cut it. Learn about macros, calories, your BMR (look it up).
Next, go to the exercise section and learn about a proper exercise routine. And never forget your cardio! Quickest way to lose BF is through cardio (and diet).
I'll tell you what. Get your diet and exercise down. 12% BF or lower. 5 more years of lifting. Do all that, and son, you probably won't need aas.
Other than that, welcome to the board mate!
-----Roman
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07-18-2011, 05:39 AM #4
You are too young, go to educational threads and read the stickies. Steroid side-effects question can be answered by google or just going to steroid profiles and reading about
compounds. Train naturallyuntil you are 24-25 years old and then think about using roids.
It is better that you wait, rather than messing with your hormonal system. Many guys who
start using roids too young will pay the the price later on ( after 40 years old).
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07-18-2011, 06:54 AM #5
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07-18-2011, 06:57 AM #6
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Last edited by Times Roman; 07-18-2011 at 08:01 AM. Reason: double post
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07-18-2011, 07:22 AM #7
Well I wasn't sure about the age , but most guys who start juicing early, have serious long term side-effects in their life after bodybuilding.
Most of guys who ask thease questions see bodybuilders who have started juicing earlier than others and they think it's okay , but in reality it isn't. From outside perspective that young bodybuilder looks fine and he might feels healthy.
In reality that is temporary , but problems will accure later in life. I'm kinda tired of answering same type of questions , because there is almost every time same answers (you are too young, learn about proper dieting or training and do your research).
Well thanks for double post Times RomanLast edited by PurpleOnes; 07-18-2011 at 07:55 AM.
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07-18-2011, 07:57 AM #8
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Last edited by Times Roman; 07-18-2011 at 08:00 AM. Reason: triple post
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07-18-2011, 08:03 AM #9
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Utilize insulin to helP max gains. BBers use it to max gains and fat loss . You can do this with a good diet and hard work very quick :-)
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07-18-2011, 08:33 AM #11Member
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Too young
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07-18-2011, 08:48 AM #12
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07-18-2011, 08:54 AM #14New Member
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I'm not to familiar with the diets, i've tried but prob wrong.
If i start on a strict diet as long with work-outs. (4x4 Intervall then on weights)
As long with the insulin which i've been told is a slight kind of Steroid ?
how long will it take til i see some effect? getting a flat belly... My biggest problem is my patience...lose motivation if i dont see an improvement in any way:S
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07-18-2011, 09:23 AM #15
Check out Milos Sarcevs "secrets of the pros"
Its a 6 part video about dieting and nutrition
It wont give u a laid out cookie cutter diet but rather help you to plan your own based on body type and goals
Best informational diet video i've seen yet, really helped me fine tune my macros and timing
Google it, its free to watch just gotta sit through a few annoying commercials
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07-18-2011, 10:57 AM #16
the flat bellt will come with a good diet
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07-18-2011, 02:06 PM #17
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07-18-2011, 04:41 PM #18New Member
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I'm sure that I will use some sort of assecory. BEen thinking bout Test if i can input it using my diabetes gear of some kind, or Anavar in oral.
Dont know if its safe or ok to use when i got this BF% , dont know how much it is but its above normal. Heard its higher chance of gaining am boobs??? Would rather not get that lol..
Also heard about this kidn of diet pill :
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Which should work?
then take it step by step by going
1. Getting lower BF%
2. Gaining more muscle mass & strenght.
What you think? What should i do?:S I WILL use it, just a matter of whcih oen to use, so i dont want any mroe replies telling em i shouldnt do it cuz im to young , I appreciete the concern but i just cant go on when im this unsatisfied with my body...Last edited by PT; 07-19-2011 at 02:40 AM. Reason: link
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07-18-2011, 05:06 PM #19
Last edited by ACE5HIGH; 07-18-2011 at 05:12 PM.
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07-18-2011, 05:13 PM #20
These types of threads irritate the dawg shlt out of me...
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07-18-2011, 05:58 PM #21Associate Member
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that's it, just ignore the advice. Here is what we are going to see from this guy in 6 months.
"ehy giys. its me NOXIT3. welll i dindntn take youur advise and now i have a couple ov probelms. First, my pee pee want get hard anymore. whut can i doe? Not lick i can get a dete with my am moobs since my bf is worse. c cupp, kinda sweet tho since i hve nevr sean boobs before. nextx, my bluud shugar is all out of whackk. i am tireed all the tyme. i haf know modivatun anymore. shood haf i dun a tpc?" pwease hepl
it drives me crazy to see these posts, and I've only been on here for almost 4 months. I can only imagine how you vets feel. asking for advice but when you give them the correct advice, they shrug it off like the people on this forum don't know what they are talking about.
as for the OP, AAS isn't a magical compound you can take and get results. you have to eat. not talking about eating 4 solid meals at McD's everyday. eating clean. all the time. on top of that, you have to bust your ass in the gym as much or more than a person would do who wasn't using AAS. your age is not the only concern before you to start steroids . your diet, or lack of, and your work habit and dedication. seriously dude, rethink AAS.
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07-18-2011, 06:48 PM #22Member
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why risk closure of bone plates? taking steroids now will increase the closure of your bone plates..you may gain a little muscle now but in a few yrs all your friends will be bigger bone wise than you...all because you were not patient. If you were smart you would learn to eat right and train properly that way when you are done growing you will be ready to start...you don't take hormones when you are already producing a shit load of hormones as a teen. It is pointless.
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07-18-2011, 07:21 PM #23
Wait till your mid 20's ive read to many horror storys of people starting too early. i joined the forum for all the reasons you did but you can just jump into stuff like this head first. take your time, learn, watch and most importantly work hard. do all that and put good research to work and you will get what you want.
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07-18-2011, 09:21 PM #24Associate Member
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Are any of you guys actually reading his post? He can't even handle pinning himself... I don't think steroids are what he's looking for if he can't handle a needle.
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07-18-2011, 10:35 PM #25New Member
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you have 0 knowledge on diet as it seems and steroids ...lol, save your money bud.
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07-18-2011, 11:17 PM #26Associate Member
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I will agree that you are too damn young. But more likely than not he is gonna do it despite what any of us say if he has the thought in his mind.
OP you clearly have no clue even about which drugs to run. You say you have a large structure, well build it naturally for the next ten years and then you'll have your day.
As for what to do now: Lift, run, eat, eat, eat, sleep. Save your money you were gonna buy juice with and go buy a gallon of milk every day and drink it.
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07-19-2011, 06:07 AM #27New Member
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ok i cant put a needle into my body , how do that tell u that im not ready for steroids ? There are more than 1 type u can use, liek pills... Might not be as effective but still does the trick. Many people dont enjoy putting a needle into their bodies as they are afraid of them, they are NEEDLEL ... It depends on each person, BTW, I input needles into myself minimum 8 times a day, but not thsoe kind of needles, if i can use my regular diabetes gear to inject it i'm all good with it ... but yea i'll try wait a lil finding a good diet and see if it helps. Are tehre any tablets that might help em along? Heard bout HOODIA-LEAN which is a fat burning boost "cure", anythign that might help on my way? :P
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Pills are ineffective to replace natural test in a eugonadal male. Thats why you need injectable test.
and u can do subq but not IM? weak shizzit
A better diet will do wonders, and dont do any fat burners. u can get better fat burning results by timing your insulin better.
serious, ur a t1d use that to your advantage. eat good, work hard and time ur insulin shots ull be cut up and swole at the same time in a year.
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07-19-2011, 06:16 AM #29Member
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Injectable AAS are IM injections, not SQ.
You need to go deep into the muscle. The bio-availability of oral AAS pale in comparison to the injectable ones. And are much harder on your body in alot of cases (hepatoxic for example).
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07-19-2011, 06:27 AM #30New Member
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* Suppress your appetite
* Dramatically reduce your calorie intake
* Lose weight quickly every single day
* Lose body fat, not just water retention
* Body fat loss
* Energy
* Feeling of satiation (fullness)
Thats what it says the HOODIA-LEAN does, thought it'd work good alogn with the insulin , but if this dont work? Then I wont buy it. I doont know what SQ, subq or IM means... I kind of hate needles, but might find a way to make my own kind of device to help me inject it :L but think i need to get lower BF% first, get on a diet and reach my limit, then might go test kind of steroids ... if thats the best way?
I just wanna get a better body and shape really really bad :S I might sound pathetic, and i dont raelly have any knowledge buot this, but i'm just so sick hearing all ppl around me complaining they're fat blah blah blah when they're skin & bones... I just wanna be fitter and stronger:SLast edited by N0X1T3; 07-19-2011 at 06:36 AM.
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...... are you serious u dont know subq or im? its where you inject. For insulin u inject subq, subcutaneous aka pinch ur skin together and inject there....
you need to research how bbers use insulin. That will be the best fat burning thing out there.
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07-19-2011, 06:44 AM #32New Member
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ah i dont always do that lol, i just put the needle on my thie or belly n just get it in lol >.> As said, i havent got much knowledge in thsi field lol xD
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07-19-2011, 11:27 AM #33
Here comes the same answer again... lol
Dude just work out naturally a little longer, you can still put on some nice size. I would honestly modify your diet a bit to where you don't fall in the normal-fat range. Take in lots of protein, good carbs and try to avoid saturated fats as much as you can. Stick to the healthy fats you find in olive oil.
Your body is still developing and by taking steroids now you will only throw it off. Try to at least get past 200 lbs having about 10% BF or less if you can.
Patience will save you grief in the long run bro.
Oh, one more thing. read read read read... the more you know the better off you will be. This forum is full of knowledge. Take advantage of it, comes in really handy. I learned a lot just from this forum alone.
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