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    Long time reader. first time poster. Need advice.

    Hey bros-

    First time posting on this forum, been on here reading up for about a year and a half. Lots of great info, has helped me tremendously.

    Long story short. I have 3 cycles under my belt. As of cycle #2 I have been experiencing gyno issues and looking for alternative cycles and everyone's input on them. First here are my stats and cycle history:

    Age:34
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 231 lbs
    BF: 10%
    Cycles: 3

    1st cycle
    Test C, 10 weeks @ 500mg/wk
    PCT: Nolva, clomid

    Before weight: 182 lbs
    Before BF: 6% (171 lean)

    After weight: 201 lbs
    After BF: 9% (182 lean)

    Net gain of +11lbs

    Test Level Before: 751
    Test Level After: 465

    2nd cycle
    Test E, 12 weeks @ 500mg/wk
    PCT: HCG, Nolva, Clomid (started HCG last day of cycle, ran for 2 weeks and started PCT)

    Before weight: 195
    After weight: 215

    Before BF: 7% (181 lean)
    After BF: 10% (193 lean)

    net gain: +12 lbs

    Test level before: 680
    Test level after: 865 (apparently HCG made a huge difference) This was 2 months after PCT

    Started experiencing gyno symptoms at week 7. Started popping nolvadex at 20mg ed for 3 weeks. So week 7-9 was on Nolvadex. Symptoms subsided.

    3rd cycle
    Test E, 12 weeks @ 500 mg/wk
    Dbol, 4 weeks @ 40mg/day
    PCT: Nolva, Letro, HCG

    Before weight: 210 lbs
    Before BF: 8% (193 lean)

    After weight: 251 lbs (huge increase)
    After BF: 16% (unfortunately huge fat increase as well) Needless to say I'll never do dbol again. Lean weight 210

    Net gain: 17 lbs, awesome but not awesome enough for the amount of fat I put on.

    Test level before: 815
    Test level after: 410


    That last cycle was a bitch. Gyno scares the shit out of me. I started experiencing puffy nipples at week 6, took 20mg of nolva for two weeks only to feel a lump start developing 1 week after taking nolva. I got scared and ordered some letro. Took about a week to get there. Stopped nolva and started letro week #8. Symptoms and lump subsided by end of week 9. Stayed on tiny dose of letro throughout cycle. Letro gets me super tired. I was having a hard time working out and took 110% to finish my workouts. Nolva also gets me tired for whatever reason but not as bad as letro. Last day of cycle I started my HCG and bumped up letro to same dose I was taking during gyno week. Started PCT 2 weeks later with just nolva this time because I was already feeling so shitty from the letro that nolva and clomid would have killed me at the gym.

    I have a feeling my test came back lower this time because of the letro but it did save me from having to start buying bras. I was a little freaked out on cycle #2 when I started getting itchy nipples and tenderness but cycle #3 scared the living shit out me.

    I want to do another cycle in a few months but wanted some feedback on lower aromatizing cycles like sustanon or even completely non-aromatizing cycles. Are those a waste (the latter)? I've heard of people doing them but haven't really seen numbers to support any gains. This is where I need your help bros. If you can recommend me a cycle that will give me minimal estrogen effects but yet still effective I would greatly appreciate it.

    btw after my crazy fat gain and then trying to lose it all I currently stand at 231 @ 10% bf. Having a hard time getting below that. This last cycle really got me.
    Last edited by lineback3r; 07-25-2011 at 10:16 AM. Reason: spelling/grammar correction

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