Power Cycle Help EQ/Test E/D-Bol

**ThePhoenix40** · 08-01-2011, 03:15 AM

Hi this is my first time posting. I have a cycle question I hope the experts on here can help shed some light on for me.

First, I’m 100% injury free and have done a few cycles in the past. I'm also in my late 20's in case anyone needs to know.

I like to do a serious bulking cycle to add mass and strength. I have been reading about tendon and ligament strengthening exercises and how EQ can help aid in collagen synthesis as long as test is somewhere between 200 and 250 mg a week. So this is what I was thinking.

Test E at 200 mg/wk 1- 14 weeks
EQ at 500 to 600 mg/wk 1-14 weeks
D-bol 20 mg/day 1-4 weeks

I will have proper PCT starting week 16 to 19 and maybe HCG to use throughout the cycle if I can get some. This will also be my first time using d-bol.

Would this cycle work for adding a lot of mass and muscular strength plus aiding in recovery for my tendons and ligaments? Under perfect circumstances what could I realistically expect for gains from this cycle?

Also Deca isn’t an option for me due to detection time.

Thanks in advance for everyone’s help.

**markdbg** · 08-01-2011, 06:35 AM

To answer your first question about if it's a good bulker., it's not the steroids you run it's your diet. Eq is not known to be a huge mass/strength builder. Tho it makes you hungry which does help alot. and about the ligament and tendon recovery and aid ,no that's deca . And it's impossible to say how much ull gain, it will
All depend on diet. Shame u cant run deca, it seems the perfect steroid for you.

Also run the test a bit higher. I'd run It at 500 for more size gains

**ThePhoenix40** · 08-01-2011, 11:34 AM

Thanks for the response markdbg...

Ok, so if I run the test at 500 mg/wk with eq 600 mg/wk will the eq help promote stronger tendons still? It's difficult to get accurate information on this topic. I have read if test is more than 250 mg/wk then it counter acts the positives from eq or deca for your tendons.

So if that is true then does the 250 mg mean 250 mg of pure test or test E. Seeing that only 72% of Test E is pure test then that would mean I would need to run 350 mg/wk of Test E.

My focus of this cycle is power and also to keep as much gains as possible. Are there any alternative drugs that can be used for this cycle that would accomplish what I'm going for and keep he detection time under 5 months?

**Hazard** · 08-01-2011, 12:30 PM

I posted a link to a study that showed EQ helped to create new tendon fibers..... but because it doesn't promote the crosslinking-connectivity of those fibers..... they are very brittle and more susceptible to tearing. I personally wouldn't use it for that.... then again.... EQ sucks for almost everything so I wouldn't use it again period.

It's especially a shitty bulker compound..... better off with test/deca . If this is a 1st cycle (didn't read full 1st post) then go with just test tos ee how your body responds.

~Haz~

**markdbg** · 08-01-2011, 08:19 PM

I agree with haz about not using it for the tendon and legiment support, tho I will disagree about u saying eq sucks, even tho it's a rather weak steroid , lots of people love it, I know lots of people who run it every cycle. The hunger it gives you is a huge help when bulking. Personally I think eq is a great compound to run along side of test with a main compound like tren or deca .

And he said he can't run deca cause of it's detection time.Don't run test at 350, run 500. Test will be the biggest strength and size builder in this cycle. Will make a Big difference, also I'd up the dbol to 30-40 mgs.

**ThePhoenix40** · 08-01-2011, 11:24 PM

Ok, I'm going to go with 500mg Test e and 600 mg of eq. And start with dbol at 20 mgs then maybe bump it up after a week depending on how I respond to it.

Thanks for the help...

**ata1979** · 08-01-2011, 11:55 PM

I'd scrap the EQ and run Tren or Anavar if power is what you want.

**Gaspari1255** · 08-02-2011, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by ata1979

I'd scrap the EQ and run Tren or Anavar if power is what you want.

Why?

**ata1979** · 08-02-2011, 12:12 AM

he said he's looking for power I gave him my opinion. I think tren is one of the best AS for power gains and would probably react better with the test than EQ. The reason why I suggested Anavar is the he could add it on the way down to limit the loss in strength as the water retenion from the Test and Dbol drain out.

**ThePhoenix40** · 08-02-2011, 02:17 AM

What kind of dosage would you take the anavar at? That's actually one of the alternatives to gear that promotes collagen synthesis.
Should I add it to the end of the cycle or take it longer? I will check cost but I should be able to do it like 50 mg/d for 4 weeks at the end.
so Test E @ 500 mg/w week 1-12
DBol @ 20 to 30 mg/d 1-4
Var @ 50 mg/d 9- 12

Would that work plus help with keepable gains after cycle? I need to do a little research on when to take last shot of Test E and last var before I start PCT...

**ata1979** · 08-02-2011, 03:03 AM

I have used Var in 5 different cycle so I am pretty well versed in it. I would recommend 50mgs 1wk, 60mgs 2wk, 70mgs 3wk and 80mgs 4wk. Your body develops an immunity to the dosages pretty quickly so I would up them weekly if I were you. Also, its good to take at the end of the cycle because when your lowering your doses of Test and EQ as you near the end of the cycle the Anavar would keep your strength up as it kicks in and give you a leaner, more cut physique with the water draining out. So could run the Var into the beginning of your PCT because it doesn't realy shut you down too much. At 80mgs maybe alittle. I just did a Var/T3 only cycle pre-summer and clomids were enough for me, didn't have to use the HCG I had. Oh, also definately take Milk Thistle while on Var (actually you should take it during any cycle, but especially with Var or Winny).

As for keepable gains, in my experience the gains that seemed the most keepable to me were Primo and Anavar, in that order.