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    Retaining strength from test p and tren ace?

    hey guys since test p and tren ace are both short estered. I wanted to know if i would be able to retain the strength gains provided i do a proper pct all year round or would i have to do a maintainance dosage all year round? I ask this because my prime concern is athletic performance

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    stats?

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    Tren a for athletic performance???

    All year round cyling/pct???

    You've been a member since 08' and youre asking questions like these???

    Stats please!!!

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    come on wats the real question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    come on wats the real question?
    lol ok 08' fair enough. the direct question is can ya keep the gains all year round with proper pct? or is tren something u need to do year round to keep your lifts up say for powerlifting?

    5'8", 12-13%, 170 lbs, 27 YO

    Straight J/K anything else lol??? :P

    Guess im kinda getting the feeling that as long u cycle off properly and maintain training and eating. u can keep the gains+strength most of em. Unless u wanna add on more to your progress which would make sense to cycle again...i suppose people like Jose Canseco throw me off who used steroids all year long...which makes me question if its use or abuse lol. From logistics i think its your training and nutrition that will dictate how much you retain
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    u will loose some when you come off

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    to wrap it up will i loose to the point that i will need to recycle? OR will i remain solid for good?

    Lastly i know through research that the strength gains are crazy so u need to watch not to increase weight drastically to protect those tendons...so how manys lbs increase is within acceptable range say for bench press per week or shoulder press?
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    I'm suprised you gained much if any strength on test p and tren a. What doses did you run? Thoses really are not good choices for athletic performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    I'm suprised you gained much if any strength on test p and tren a. What doses did you run? Thoses really are not good choices for athletic performance.
    you don't think test and tren would add strength? What would you suggest for strength then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    you don't think test and tren would add strength? What would you suggest for strength then?
    Usually when people use prop and tren a it's a cutting cycle, not always I guess, and the doses are low. I'm running that now only 100mg of both eod. My strength sux but I am dieting hard.

    If I wanted to run a strength/athletic performance cycle I would use a longer ester test and maybe deca .

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    what the hell are u talking about. do u read? and clearly u have no idea what you are talking about

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    tren is the badboy of strength so im not sure what hes talking about either.

    OP,, if your at your genetic potential you will lose most of your gains eventually. Thats why people keep cycling.

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    You wont retain all your strength. Tren gives you r-tard strength, once you come off you'll lose some of that.
    tren + athletics = terrible idea
    Tren + year on = worse idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by brnxbomers View Post
    hey guys since test p and tren ace are both short estered. I wanted to know if i would be able to retain the strength gains provided i do a proper pct all year round or would i have to do a maintainance dosage all year round? I ask this because my prime concern is athletic performance
    how do you expect an answer until you shed light on what you do?!

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    Ok, guys obviously you have never dieted down. Try a precontest cycle of 100mg of prop and tren eod while eating one carb meal a day and tell me you have any strength. Yes I read shit and I know that tren is a good strength builder but you didn't read my first post. Most of the time when someone is running tren a and test p its a cutting cycle usualy acompanied with a cutting diet. Thats also why I asked you what the doses were.

    You didn't give us the details we needed to answer your question, WHAT WERE THE DOSES! In short your going to loose at least some of the strength you gained when you get off, obviously you don't read shit thats a newb question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Ok, guys obviously you have never dieted down. Try a precontest cycle of 100mg of prop and tren eod while eating one carb meal a day and tell me you have any strength. Yes I read shit and I know that tren is a good strength builder but you didn't read my first post. Most of the time when someone is running tren a and test p its a cutting cycle usualy acompanied with a cutting diet. Thats also why I asked you what the doses were.

    You didn't give us the details we needed to answer your question, WHAT WERE THE DOSES! In short your going to loose at least some of the strength you gained when you get off, obviously you don't read shit thats a newb question.
    ive had great strength while cutting on tren, your fighting a losing a battle here

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    ive had great strength while cutting on tren, your fighting a losing a battle here
    How many carbs were you eating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    How many carbs were you eating?
    100grm pd

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    Bottom line is if your gaining strength while on a supposed cutting deit then your cutting diet is not very agressive, I don't care what AAS your taking, you have to supply enegry and proper nutrients to your muscles to gain strength and size.

    All my friends that compete all say the same thing they feel like crap and strength is down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Bottom line is if your gaining strength while on a supposed cutting deit then your cutting diet is not very agressive, I don't care what AAS your taking, you have to supply enegry and proper nutrients to your muscles to gain strength and size.

    All my friends that compete all say the same thing they feel like crap and strength is down.
    mate no offence, but thats rubbish. i dont need to be educated in diet, i know what im doin. tren is amazing at producing gains in every way on a restricted diet, u must have had underdosed or mis-labelled

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    mate no offence, but thats rubbish. i dont need to be educated in diet, i know what im doin. tren is amazing at producing gains in every way on a restricted diet, u must have had underdosed or mis-labelled
    I agree. I cut with test and tren and still get stronger. Maybe not as much if i was eating a ton nut def don't get weaker.

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    First, We kneed to know what sport or sports are you training for? Then I would cotinue the cycle switching the tren out with a steroid that retains more strenght(strength that you may have gotten from tren) . Winny or anavar would be a good choice . then after a few weeks go into pct and train real hard . good luck . PS. tren can be good for certain athletics that dont require continual cardio.
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    I have this gut feeling he is a baseball player. I know baseball players who do very well on tren +test cycle,

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobloat View Post
    I have this gut feeling he is a baseball player. I know baseball players who do very well on tren +test cycle,
    or you just read his post history. busted. lmao

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    I actually googled bronx bombers(his name)lol. He really shouldn't use his team as a username on a steroid site . It will piss of his coach and the owner big time. think of your teamates. Its an interesting thread though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobloat View Post
    I actually googled bronx bombers(his name)lol. He really shouldn't use his team as a username on a steroid site . It will piss of his coach and the owner big time. think of your teamates. Its an interesting thread though.
    you realize thats the nickname for the NY Yankee's

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    no didnt know. I live near boston . Maybe jeter started this thread , but Isnt there a minor league in the bronx that actualy has that name
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    100grm pd

    Ok, well that's why we are dissagreeing, I'm eating 25gr per day. You can't get stronger on that, if you think I full of it try it for about 6 weeks.

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