Thick ketchup-like blood when aspirating

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 02:12 AM

injecting my vastus-lateralis sometime last week and leg has been sore for longer than usual, but didn't think much of it. Just a few moments ago I was going to pin, and as i was aspirating, got some thick ketchup-like blood. It's 4am here, so there's nothing i can really do yet, but hopefully someone else is up and can give me some info

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 02:18 AM

So...where were you pinning when you aspirated this thick blood?
How long have you been on cycle?
What compounds?
What is your blood pressure?
Do you know what your hematocrit/RBC count is?

And do you actually have a medical background, or did you just google the Latin term for "outer quad"?

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 02:21 AM

no medical background, just knew the term.
on Tren , Test, winny. been on for 4 weeks now
Didn't get any bloodwork done.
Right now im just draining the area - got 6ccs so far

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 02:27 AM

Wait...you're draining the area??? So you have an abscess? If so, that is mostly puss, not blood.

Jesus Christ, stop what you're doing and go see a doctor first thing in the morning or you're going to end up like Greg valentino.
Luckily for you, you're in Canada where you can freely disclose this info with your doc without worrying about getting raped by your insurance company.
You need antibiotics and possibly a good lancing of the abscess.
Oh, and stop using that gear, because it is almost surely contaminated.

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 02:28 AM

should i go to the hospital?

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by mikail

should i go to the hospital?

Yes! Like yesterday.
You could lose your ****ing leg if you procrastinate.

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 02:32 AM

can i tell the nurses everything when they ask? or is there some risk involved

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by mikail

can i tell the nurses everything when they ask? or is there some risk involved

Steroid use isn't even illegal in Canada AND you have free public healthcare that you cannot be denied.
You have nothing to hide.

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 02:32 AM

ok, thanks for advice, heading out to emergency room now

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-09-2011, 02:37 AM

I think you should be pretty open about what you did. Time is of the essence, you shouldn't force them to play Dr. House with you.

**lovbyts** · 08-09-2011, 03:01 AM

If he comes back and ask the same damn questions after already being told will some one please go find him and slap him.

**Matt** · 08-09-2011, 03:05 AM

I wonder if he carries out other complex medical procedures...

**lovbyts** · 08-09-2011, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Matt

I wonder if he carries out other complex medical procedures...

You mean lancing it with a razor, draining it and giving him some antibiotics?

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 03:15 AM

No, I think Matt meant a frontal lobotomy.

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 03:17 AM

In the emergency room now...
I'm just wondering... Could it be tainted gear? Or something else?
Because I've injected my delts, bis, tris, and glutes aswell, so if it was the gear, couldn't I also have abscesses there too?

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-09-2011, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by mikail

In the emergency room now...
I'm just wondering... Could it be tainted gear? Or something else?
Because I've injected my delts, bis, tris, and glutes aswell, so if it was the gear, couldn't I also have abscesses there too?

It's possible. You should have them check for a brain tumor too.

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by mikail

In the emergency room now...
I'm just wondering... Could it be tainted gear? Or something else?
Because I've injected my delts, bis, tris, and glutes aswell, so if it was the gear, couldn't I also have abscesses there too?

I already preemptively answered that question as well...

**carbo** · 08-09-2011, 03:17 AM

I was just watching Rambo 3 last nite. You guys know the scene, where he uses gunpowder to heal a bullet wound?

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 03:23 AM

Lol, u guys are assholes

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-09-2011, 03:25 AM

If I were you, I wouldn't be laughing out loud. Abscesses are no laughing matter. You ever see the documentary on The Man Whose Arms Exploded?

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

If I were you, I wouldn't be laughing out loud. Abscesses are no laughing matter. You ever see the documentary on The Man Whose Arms Exploded?

I already hit that point in post #4.
Damn I'm good

**songdog** · 08-09-2011, 06:30 AM

You should be kissing these a--holes ash.Without them you would still be trying to figure things out.Good luck.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-09-2011, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

I already hit that point in post #4.
Damn I'm good

You're bodybuilding's answer to Miss Cleo.

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

You're bodybuilding's answer to Miss Cleo.

I LOL'ed

**AstheticKing** · 08-09-2011, 06:22 AM

wtf....damn

**jasc** · 08-09-2011, 06:34 AM

kinda interested in the outcome... what'd the Dr say?

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 08:02 AM

@songdog, alrdy said thanks
I'm in the hospital still... They're doing blood tests and I'm just waiting for ultra sounds. If it hasn't progressed too far, they're gonna drain the area with a needle. If it has progressed, they're gonna cut a chunk of muscle out of my leg....

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 08:34 AM

@songdog, alrdy said thanks
I'm in the hospital still... They're doing blood tests and I'm just waiting for ultra sounds. If it hasn't progressed too far, they're gonna drain the area with a needle. If it has progressed, they're gonna cut a chunk of muscle out of my leg....

**jasc** · 08-09-2011, 08:43 AM

holy sh!t man.. the Dr say what caused this?

**lovbyts** · 08-09-2011, 08:44 AM

Oh DAMN, really? That doesnt sound good. Hope it didnt go to far, that would suck.

Good luck,.

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 08:54 AM

The drs didn't say, but now I'm just hoping that its not the gear, because that would mean I will probably have the same thing on my ass, and delts asawell

**FCVtec** · 08-09-2011, 09:45 AM

Holy crap. I wish you the best of luck man. Keep us posted.

**AstheticKing** · 08-09-2011, 02:04 PM

so u got cut huh??

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 02:16 PM

blood tests came back negative, apparantley it was just some severe inflammation and a hematoma.
Doc said gear still good and i could pin as soon as as i got home

, just not in that leg lol

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by mikail

blood tests came back negative, apparantley it was just some severe inflammation and a hematoma.
Doc said gear still good and i could pin as soon as as i got home

, just not in that leg lol

No.
If anything, it was sterile abscess. Why would you have severe inflammation if there weren't anything wrong with the gear and/or your injection technique?
If you go home and pin that stuff (especially the Winny, which is most likely the cause of it), you are the biggest fool on this entire website.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-09-2011, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by mikail

blood tests came back negative, apparantley it was just some severe inflammation and a hematoma.
Doc said gear still good and i could pin as soon as as i got home

, just not in that leg lol

What the **** kind of doctor would tell you that you could pin when you get home? I'm sorry, but my bullshit detector is going off the charts.

**mikail** · 08-09-2011, 02:24 PM

then wouldn't I have the same problem at other injection sites if it was the gear? cause i've taken the winny in the ass, bis, tris and delts aswell

**Bonaparte** · 08-09-2011, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by mikail

then wouldn't I have the same problem at other injection sites if it was the gear? cause i've taken the winny in the ass, bis, tris and delts aswell

Not necessarily. There are tons of biological factors at play here.

**Far from massive** · 08-09-2011, 06:17 PM

If you hit both you knees and hips with a hammer and it only broke one knee cap that would not mean you had a bad knee cap it would mean quit hitting yourself in the knee with a hammer. Your gear is most likely garbage unless you caused the problem by some other method, anyway you look at it when you consider the cost of gear compared to the cost/heartache involved in the loss of cutting out a portion of your leg...toss the shit!

**Lemonada8** · 08-09-2011, 06:24 PM

I would say ur injection wasn't sterile if you haven't had a issue untill now and it's from the same vial.

Or u went thru a big vein and it just pooled there. If the tests came back negative for infection prolly be fine.

Why would you inject into your hurt leg tho? And u should have noticed the swelling.... That's dumb Imo