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    Androgenic sides from boldenone: I would need some comparison with other steroids

    Hello, I am planning a NANDROLONE +BOLDENONE cycle this autumn or winter (steroid powders mixed in a transdermal gel). I have done 5 oral cycles with stanozolol and oxandrolone during the last three years, and I think it was both unhealthy for my lipids and not too much effective for muscle gains. If I were 25, I would probably accept the gradual growth of high quality muscle, but I am already 37 years old and my productive sports years will be soon over.

    Since I am prone to hair loss and I have been on minoxidil for nearly 15 years, my first concern is the steroid's androgenicity. I observed that there was a huge difference between oxandrolone and stanozolol in this regard, despite that both are depicted as "mild" steroids . This is certainly incorrect, because I got very oily skin and big red cysts on my face on mere 30 mg stanozolol/day, but 60-70 mg oxandrolone/day actually IMPROVED my long-term problems with acne and seborrhea due to endogenous testosterone suppression. The androgenicity of oxandrolone is really ridiculously low, much lower than I dared to expect. Luckily, I observed no hair loss on stanozolol, but I don't want to risk it anymore. I also did a small nandrolone cycle in a very distant past and it was fine - except the post-cycle acne on my back.

    Now, I want to order nandrolone and boldenone powders, but I don't want to make a mistake and I would need some comparison of oxandrolone and stanozolol with boldenone - but only from people, who are sensitive to androgens and experienced some androgenic sides with them. I have no idea, where to place boldenone on my androgenic chart.

    For any pieces of experience, thank you in advance.

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    Nobody on this forum has ever done a solo boldenone or stanozolol cycle?

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    Allot of people think the EQ is a waste of money. Also remember mold steroid is a comparison to other steroids . None of them are mild- they all cause physiological changes to your body. That cycle will definitely suppress you.

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    I don't care much about suppression; I developed a very easy PCT methodology that I describe in another thread. I am interested in the comparison of stanozolol and boldenone , as for androgenic sides. For example, if someone experienced acne on stanozolol (during the cycle), did he experience it on boldenone as well?

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    None of those compounds you mentioned will absorb through your skin. Their molecular weights are too high.
    Are you scared of needles?

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    I will use bases. Molecular weights are 286 g/mol in boldenone and 274 in nandrolone . That should be O.K. Absorption is good, when molecular weights are below 350 g/mol.

    Naturally, transdermal application with nandrolone phenylpropionate (407 g/mol) and boldenone undecylenate (453 g/mol) would be impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroidman99 View Post
    I will use bases. Molecular weights are 286 g/mol in boldenone and 274 in nandrolone . That should be O.K. Absorption is good, when molecular weights are below 350 g/mol.

    Naturally, transdermal application with nandrolone phenylpropionate (407 g/mol) and boldenone undecylenate (453 g/mol) would be impossible.
    Good. Happy to see you've done your homework.

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    I would say you are likely wasting your time why not simply inject some test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    I would say you are likely wasting your time why not simply inject some test?
    And why not to use transdermal gels, when the application is easier, with less risks and even cheaper?

    My friend does it for several years already. Successfully.

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    You would probably have to bathe in the stuff to get enough that way.

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    And why not to use transdermal gels, when the application is easier, with less risks and even cheaper?
    Transdermal is a waste and I am yet to see anyone pleased with results from that method. Injecting is very easy, quick and doesn`t put others at risk.

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    SMan99,
    from personal experience, deca and boldenone are quality steroids . they tend to give you resonably quality muscle gains with mild sides and EQ especially makes me super vascular. they are both pretty safe compuonds as well. (though i have never thought of doing them transdermally). both of these compounds can take an extended period of time to start working. like well over a month to see anything (and thats injecting,..not sure about trans D)
    the only thing i would say to be weary of is that each of these compounds can shuit down your own test production pretty hard (im sure you have heard of deca d*ck) and a friend of mine was on a EQ only cycle and his nipples starting leaking fluids!!!
    i would highly recommend adding at least a low dose of test as a hormone replacement, unless you dont like having sex,..in that case in wont matter if you have no sex drive and your thingy doesnt work.
    good luck

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    Bold and Deca will shut you down hard. Especially the deca. If you didn't lost hair on winny (a DHT) then you should be ok with test and finesteride. I would not reccommend your cycle. Test should be in there even if only a small amount

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    I actually did Bold only for about twelve weeks! I had itchy nips around week 4 but that was it. I wasn't trying to gain mass during this only recover from an injury which I feel it helped but I Definatley saw some vascularity.

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    What a funny thread. Where do they come from?

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