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08-28-2011, 06:33 PM #1Associate Member
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Androgenic sides from boldenone: I would need some comparison with other steroids
Hello, I am planning a NANDROLONE +BOLDENONE cycle this autumn or winter (steroid powders mixed in a transdermal gel). I have done 5 oral cycles with stanozolol and oxandrolone during the last three years, and I think it was both unhealthy for my lipids and not too much effective for muscle gains. If I were 25, I would probably accept the gradual growth of high quality muscle, but I am already 37 years old and my productive sports years will be soon over.
Since I am prone to hair loss and I have been on minoxidil for nearly 15 years, my first concern is the steroid's androgenicity. I observed that there was a huge difference between oxandrolone and stanozolol in this regard, despite that both are depicted as "mild" steroids . This is certainly incorrect, because I got very oily skin and big red cysts on my face on mere 30 mg stanozolol/day, but 60-70 mg oxandrolone/day actually IMPROVED my long-term problems with acne and seborrhea due to endogenous testosterone suppression. The androgenicity of oxandrolone is really ridiculously low, much lower than I dared to expect. Luckily, I observed no hair loss on stanozolol, but I don't want to risk it anymore. I also did a small nandrolone cycle in a very distant past and it was fine - except the post-cycle acne on my back.
Now, I want to order nandrolone and boldenone powders, but I don't want to make a mistake and I would need some comparison of oxandrolone and stanozolol with boldenone - but only from people, who are sensitive to androgens and experienced some androgenic sides with them. I have no idea, where to place boldenone on my androgenic chart.
For any pieces of experience, thank you in advance.
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08-29-2011, 07:54 AM #2Associate Member
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Nobody on this forum has ever done a solo boldenone or stanozolol cycle?
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08-29-2011, 08:27 AM #3
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08-29-2011, 09:13 AM #4Associate Member
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I don't care much about suppression; I developed a very easy PCT methodology that I describe in another thread. I am interested in the comparison of stanozolol and boldenone , as for androgenic sides. For example, if someone experienced acne on stanozolol (during the cycle), did he experience it on boldenone as well?
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08-29-2011, 02:00 PM #5
None of those compounds you mentioned will absorb through your skin. Their molecular weights are too high.
Are you scared of needles?
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08-29-2011, 07:24 PM #6Associate Member
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I will use bases. Molecular weights are 286 g/mol in boldenone and 274 in nandrolone . That should be O.K. Absorption is good, when molecular weights are below 350 g/mol.
Naturally, transdermal application with nandrolone phenylpropionate (407 g/mol) and boldenone undecylenate (453 g/mol) would be impossible.Last edited by Steroidman99; 08-29-2011 at 07:28 PM.
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08-29-2011, 08:19 PM #7
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08-29-2011, 08:26 PM #8
I would say you are likely wasting your time why not simply inject some test?
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08-30-2011, 07:47 AM #9Associate Member
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08-30-2011, 08:10 AM #10
You would probably have to bathe in the stuff to get enough that way.
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08-30-2011, 08:49 AM #11And why not to use transdermal gels, when the application is easier, with less risks and even cheaper?
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08-30-2011, 09:30 AM #12
SMan99,
from personal experience, deca and boldenone are quality steroids . they tend to give you resonably quality muscle gains with mild sides and EQ especially makes me super vascular. they are both pretty safe compuonds as well. (though i have never thought of doing them transdermally). both of these compounds can take an extended period of time to start working. like well over a month to see anything (and thats injecting,..not sure about trans D)
the only thing i would say to be weary of is that each of these compounds can shuit down your own test production pretty hard (im sure you have heard of deca d*ck) and a friend of mine was on a EQ only cycle and his nipples starting leaking fluids!!!
i would highly recommend adding at least a low dose of test as a hormone replacement, unless you dont like having sex,..in that case in wont matter if you have no sex drive and your thingy doesnt work.
good luck
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08-31-2011, 07:02 PM #13
Bold and Deca will shut you down hard. Especially the deca. If you didn't lost hair on winny (a DHT) then you should be ok with test and finesteride. I would not reccommend your cycle. Test should be in there even if only a small amount
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08-31-2011, 07:50 PM #14Junior Member
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I actually did Bold only for about twelve weeks! I had itchy nips around week 4 but that was it. I wasn't trying to gain mass during this only recover from an injury which I feel it helped but I Definatley saw some vascularity.
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08-31-2011, 08:07 PM #15
What a funny thread. Where do they come from?
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