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    Cool Just did my first pin of Tren :)

    I will be doing 107mg ( 1.4cc ) of Prop,Tren , and Mast EOD for 8 weeks. I am running a blend that contains 75mg of each in each cc. I was nervous about getting the cough but I did not get it thank god haha. I am also running stane at 12.5mg EOD. I will be posting up before and after pics/stats. If I find that the sides are very tolerable I may bump it up to 150mg EOD. Any advice from you tren users?

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    I worked out a few hours after my shot and had some intense pumps! Can the tren kick in this quick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrongSide View Post
    I worked out a few hours after my shot and had some intense pumps! Can the tren kick in this quick?
    no, 2wks and hold on at 3wks!!

    the cough is from any compound entering a vein, ive only ever had it from test prop, once. 'tren cough' is a forum circulating broscience myth, always pin with a fresh needle, not the drawing needle, and you decrease the chances of this substantially.

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    Thanks for the replies. I always draw with a 25G then swap for either a 23G or 25G depending on where im shooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrongSide View Post
    Thanks for the replies. I always draw with a 25G then swap for either a 23G or 25G depending on where im shooting
    you should be fine, but anyone can be unlucky enough to go through a vein and then when withdrawing a minute amount of compound gets in the bloodstream, but in literally 100's of pins, its happened me once and mainly because in a hurry i brain faded and injected with the needle i withdrew from the vial with

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    no, 2wks and hold on at 3wks!!

    the cough is from any compound entering a vein, ive only ever had it from test prop, once. 'tren cough' is a forum circulating broscience myth, always pin with a fresh needle, not the drawing needle, and you decrease the chances of this substantially.
    What difference would it make? Sure, we should all use a fresh needle, but if you hit a vein, you hit a vein...Just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    What difference would it make? Sure, we should all use a fresh needle, but if you hit a vein, you hit a vein...Just saying...
    because there will be amounts of the compound at the tip of the needle, none in a fresh needle, all the compound will be in the syringe

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    because there will be amounts of the compound at the tip of the needle, none in a fresh needle, all the compound will be in the syringe
    Yeah, i worried about that too...about 15 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    no, 2wks and hold on at 3wks!!

    the cough is from any compound entering a vein, ive only ever had it from test prop, once. 'tren cough' is a forum circulating broscience myth, always pin with a fresh needle, not the drawing needle, and you decrease the chances of this substantially.
    The cough is dependent on whats in the solution. Usually Benzyl Alcohol (for homebrews, pharm grade put much more complex combo in their stuff) its cuz it crosses the barrier in the lungs, so it gives the feeling of liquid in the lungs which the normal reaction is coughing.
    http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/con...4/862.abstract
    "The only systemic side-effect was episodes of sudden-onset, non-productive cough associated with faintness following eight injections [1.5% (0.6–2.9%)] which we speculate may have been due to pulmonary oil microembolism."

    http://www.drugs.com/pro/methotrexate-injection.html
    ...formulations containing the preservative benzyl alcohol are not recommended for use in neonates. There have been reports of fatal 'gasping syndrome' in neonates (children less than one month of age) following the administration of intravenous solutions containing the preservative benzyl alcohol. Symptoms include a striking onset of gasping respiration, hypotension, bradycardia, and cardiovascular collapse.


    So you are right, it all about getting it into a vein, no matter what the compound is; also, the needle shouldnt make a difference but you should always inject with a fresh needle anyways for other reasons

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    What is your planned PCT? are you using HCG on cycle?

    you should start a thread in the cycles/results area if you will keep it updated :P

    good luck!

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    What is your real question? Your mg's are way off on each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    What is your real question? Your mg's are way off on each.
    How are my mgs off? Its 75mg of each steroid per cc and I am taking 1.4cc which is just over 107mgs... That seems like a perfect amount to start with?

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    Not entirely sure about the blends. They look very tempting, but Ive heard that they are under dosed. I'm about to start a prop and tren cycle too. Good luck OP. Post updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CleanCut View Post
    Not entirely sure about the blends. They look very tempting, but Ive heard that they are under dosed. I'm about to start a prop and tren cycle too. Good luck OP. Post updates.
    why are blends tempting? There is no benefit at all to them but plenty of downsides.

    And with any ugl they can be under dosed as easy as anything else. You have to trust your source.

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    only time i had this was with pharm grade prop, testolic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    only time i had this was with pharm grade prop, testolic.
    the onyl thing that does it to me. is tren i make from pellets

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    the onyl thing that does it to me. is tren i make from pellets
    you reckon theres a correlation with tren being derived from the pellets? ive never had tren from pellets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you reckon theres a correlation with tren being derived from the pellets? ive never had tren from pellets.
    possibly, i never got it from any ugl tren .

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    possibly, i never got it from any ugl tren.
    me either.

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    OP does your vial actually break down the blend saying you have 75mg/cc of each compound? Or does it say 225mg/cc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10nispro View Post
    OP does your vial actually break down the blend saying you have 75mg/cc of each compound? Or does it say 225mg/cc?

    It breaks it down brotha

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    im assuming this isnt your first cycle cus using a blend like this for a novice is just well irresponsible...i know knothing about you but if you have never tryed all of these compound seperatly and know how your body reacts to each then you are possibly setting yourself up for trouble...that said maybee with such a low dose it wont be so bad idk...good luck...maybee i missed it but id like to see some stats and maybee some before pics...

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    Stats -
    Age- 24
    Height - 6 "
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    BF % - 12%
    Lifting Exp - 6 Years
    Diet - 250 Calories above maint. Will be eating VERY clean
    Goals - To add LBM and drop fat ( Turn into a lean freak )
    Cycle Exp - 1st Cycle Test prop 75mg ED for 8 weeks
    2nd Cycle Test Prop 150mg EOD/Tbol 60mg ED/ NPP 150mg EOD

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    looks good, good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    looks good, good luck
    Thanks man

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