1st time just CLEN CYCLE

**Rule** · 10-06-2011, 06:24 AM

Hey, my current stats are 18% bf, 78kgs. I am going to start using clen for the 1st time with just a clean diet and a workout program. My aim is too lose bf and hopefully lower it to 10%? wud like to gain/retain muscle at the same time

any tip/suggestions on hw to proceed?

**gonzo6183** · 10-06-2011, 07:04 AM

Big goal... Eat perfectly and smash that cardio

**xelnaga** · 10-06-2011, 10:37 AM

I'm currently on day four of my first clen cycle. I'm doing a 5 day a week lifting program; and 4-5 day a week of cardio. So far so good. Sleep sucks but it hasnt affected my lift/cardio. How are you running yours?

**Rule** · 10-07-2011, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by xelnaga

I'm currently on day four of my first clen cycle. I'm doing a 5 day a week lifting program; and 4-5 day a week of cardio. So far so good. Sleep sucks but it hasnt affected my lift/cardio. How are you running yours?

Ill be doing a 2 week on/2 week off Clenbuterol cycle as mentioned here on the web, i havent done any cycle's before. same as urs 4-5 days cardio upto an hour. I recently gt injured so i wont be doing weights for atleast 2-3 weeks. but i saw ur post i mite copy urs duno

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-07-2011, 04:38 PM

Man, I hated clen .

**Little1** · 10-07-2011, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rule

Ill be doing a 2 week on/2 week off Clenbuterol cycle as mentioned here on the web, i havent done any cycle's before. same as urs 4-5 days cardio upto an hour. I recently gt injured so i wont be doing weights for atleast 2-3 weeks. but i saw ur post i mite copy urs duno

Is that injectable clen ? That is the protocol I heard for injectable.

I have run 4 weeks consecutive of oral clen with a pyramid dose with moderate success.

Brother, I did learn clen is retarded. You will gain that weight right back, while ****ing up your heart. Trust me. Use clen if you are to compete, or you will be punching your chest like me, trying to relieve heart pains

**xelnaga** · 10-07-2011, 05:03 PM

Hey Little- I assume with your clen related heart condition, that is still on going, you have a diagnosis from a cardiologist. Would you mind sharing? Thanks.

**Little1** · 10-07-2011, 05:07 PM

I only have pains when I run clen , but it is enough to drop me to the floor.

I got hypertension because of my tbol/clen/test cycle. I was over 165/110.

I am on Lisinopril now, at 20mg ed. Now my BP is contained at 125/80. I am happy. EKGs also came out great, as well as chest xrays. No enlarged heart.

But I only ran clen twice. Both times, after I hit 100mcg and above, constant heart pain. If I had stayed on, I could be somewhere under ground. No more clen for me

**Rule** · 10-07-2011, 11:11 PM

Hey Little1. I havent started yet but i was just gonna use to lower my body fat %. but with ur heart condition did it start just becasue of clen or u had a previous condition which clen triggered it?
The one i wud be using wud be oral.

**Aussie D** · 10-07-2011, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by SufferToReturnHarder

Man, I hated clen.

Why ?

**Little1** · 10-07-2011, 11:24 PM

I was healthy before

**xelnaga** · 10-07-2011, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Little1

I only have pains when I run clen , but it is enough to drop me to the floor.

I got hypertension because of my tbol/clen/test cycle. I was over 165/110.

I am on Lisinopril now, at 20mg ed. Now my BP is contained at 125/80. I am happy. EKGs also came out great, as well as chest xrays. No enlarged heart.

But I only ran clen twice. Both times, after I hit 100mcg and above, constant heart pain. If I had stayed on, I could be somewhere under ground. No more clen for me

Clen will not damage your heart at 100mcg; it may exacerbate a condition you already have. It sounds like you are naturally prone to HBP; hence the Lpril. Tbol and test will raise your BP even further; then throwing a substance like clen into the mix its amazing you are still here. Thanks for sharing.

**The Bear 79** · 10-07-2011, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga

Clen will not damage your heart at 100mcg; it may exacerbate a condition you already have. It sounds like you are naturally prone to HBP; hence the Lpril. Tbol and test will raise your BP even further; then throwing a substance like clen into the mix its amazing you are still here. Thanks for sharing.

U r sadly mistaken dude, Clen cuases cell death @ ANY dose, among other issues. Clen is dangerous garbage & Little1 is a good example of that. (not bashin on u Little1, u used urself as an example so I'm just runnin with it) U can accomplish the exact same thing natty, without the risks.

**Little1** · 10-08-2011, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

U r sadly mistaken dude, Clen cuases cell death @ ANY dose, among other issues. Clen is dangerous garbage & Little1 is a good example of that. (not bashin on u Little1, u used urself as an example so I'm just runnin with it) U can accomplish the exact same thing natty, without the risks.

It's cool, that's why I said it

**Little1** · 10-08-2011, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by xelnaga

Clen will not damage your heart at 100mcg; it may exacerbate a condition you already have. It sounds like you are naturally prone to HBP; hence the Lpril. Tbol and test will raise your BP even further; then throwing a substance like clen into the mix its amazing you are still here. Thanks for sharing.

That was prescribed AFTER the diagnosis..... I was healthy before, like I just said

**xelnaga** · 10-08-2011, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

U r sadly mistaken dude, Clen cuases cell death @ ANY dose, among other issues. Clen is dangerous garbage & Little1 is a good example of that. (not bashin on u Little1, u used urself as an example so I'm just runnin with it) U can accomplish the exact same thing natty, without the risks.

Cell death huh? What cells "die" ?

**The Bear 79** · 10-08-2011, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga

Cell death huh? What cells "die" ?

Man I really hope ur joking. U really shouldn't b advising on such a dangerous drug, knowing so little about it.

**xelnaga** · 10-08-2011, 08:09 PM

Erased.

**Hondarocks** · 10-08-2011, 10:32 PM

Dude, get off that shit man and get on a good diet and more cardio. Or mabey some winny. **** clen , that will screw you up for life. I have only seen it positively help one person and he is a freak of nature basically a living superman, and you are not him my friend. Plz get off that stuff.

**Rule** · 10-10-2011, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Hondarocks

Dude, get off that shit man and get on a good diet and more cardio. Or mabey some winny. **** clen, that will screw you up for life. I have only seen it positively help one person and he is a freak of nature basically a living superman, and you are not him my friend. Plz get off that stuff.

I havent started taking clen yet, but I have tried the dieting method supplemented with cardio its taking for ever dude i dropped frm 19%bf to 18% in like 2.5 weeks n my weight dropped frm 80 to 78.5 kgs. can clen be used safely? or u guys knw any other supp which can aid me. no wieght loss pills though.