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    Reason behind not taking gear before 25?

    Everyone says dont take them before you're 25, but no one ever explains why... they say it will mess up your endocrine system. But are they really just saying that so stupid kids dont start juicing without research?

    I've read that post "The young and Steroids " by MARCUS300... and even that didnt explain much, all it really said is youre endocrine system is still developing at that age and you could damage it.

    So what are the reasons behind it ****ing with youre endocrine system, instead of just shutting it down/suppressing it?

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    [QUOTE=myron_gaines;5771225]Everyone says dont take them before you're 25, but no one ever explains why... they say it will mess up your endocrine system. But are they really just saying that so stupid kids dont start juicing without research?

    I've read that post "The young and Steroids " by MARCUS300... and even that didnt explain much, all it really said is youre endocrine system is still developing at that age and you could damage it.

    So what are the reasons behind it ****ing with youre endocrine system, instead of just shutting it down/suppressing it?[/QUOTE]

    and for starters....that is not enough? shutting down or suppressing your endocrine system?
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    not really, i feel people are way to vauge on this topic and misinform others...

    shutdown is caused by an imbalance, and when that imbalance flips (when your come off gear) it reverts to natural test production, and a PCT would help this recovery quicker. right?

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    not everyone recovers and some end up in TRT for life once their endocrine system messes up; hence why doing AAS before one is fully developed is not a good idea
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    There is greater risk to not being able to recover when the endo system is not fully developed. Why not let itget set naturally before you try these compounds. You can always try them when you are older but you can never UN-try them after you've done damage. I personally know someone that started too young and his system never fully recovered. Now he is on TRT for life.

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    permanent shutdown can happen even if youre older than 25

    also can you explain to me why there is a greater chance of not recovering if it is not fully developed? ive never heard an explanation... it seems like its just something everyone throws around without knowing much about

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    Your endo system is finding its baseline for the rest of your life. If you damage it during this time it has a harder time recovering

    Both in humans and in animals, endocrine signalling is involved in reproduction and embryo development, growth and maturation, energy production, use and energy storage, electrolyte balance and maintenance and behaviour. Hormones trigger such complex functions by interacting with their receptors that are present, at a nuclear and/or cellular level, in various organs and tissues as part of a complex biological feedback system. Any disruption of this balance can cause impairment in the physiological status of the whole organism, especially during the more susceptible developmental stages. If the regulatory role of the endocrine system is impaired, abnormal function and/or development of the reproductive, the nervous and the immune systems may occur. It has been recently postulated that predisposition for certain types of tumours is caused by an altered development during prenatal growth (intrauterine) and in the first years of life (Sharpe and Sakkebaek, 1993). It is noteworthy that the available data overall support the public health concerns for endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by im83931 View Post
    Your endo system is finding its baseline for the rest of your life. If you damage it during this time it has a harder time recovering

    Both in humans and in animals, endocrine signalling is involved in reproduction and embryo development, growth and maturation, energy production, use and energy storage, electrolyte balance and maintenance and behaviour. Hormones trigger such complex functions by interacting with their receptors that are present, at a nuclear and/or cellular level, in various organs and tissues as part of a complex biological feedback system. Any disruption of this balance can cause impairment in the physiological status of the whole organism, especially during the more susceptible developmental stages. If the regulatory role of the endocrine system is impaired, abnormal function and/or development of the reproductive, the nervous and the immune systems may occur. It has been recently postulated that predisposition for certain types of tumours is caused by an altered development during prenatal growth (intrauterine) and in the first years of life (Sharpe and Sakkebaek, 1993). It is noteworthy that the available data overall support the public health concerns for endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs).
    Is that a good enough reason Myron?

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    And just to clarify AAS will disrupt your endo system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myron_gaines View Post
    not really, i feel people are way to vauge on this topic and misinform others...

    shutdown is caused by an imbalance, and when that imbalance flips (when your come off gear) it reverts to natural test production, and a PCT would help this recovery quicker. right?
    In a perfect world, yes. Often times that is not the case, and idiots end up with suboptimal hormone levels and basically screw themselves over for life all for a few lbs of fast muscle.

    Plus, 25 years old is sort of the point in most peoples' lives where they're pretty mature and are more well-suited to deal with the mental aspect of steroid use as well. (NOTE: If someone's knee-jerk reaction is "I'm plenty mature dumbass," then they're not).

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    How and why people are so naive, I just dont get it. Why come here ask the question and then when you dont like the answer you argue it..Why ask it in the first place, there are no "yes men" here man, get ahold of it. You got one post and the responder has 8,000k. I think she knows better than you and and one simple answer should suffice. Do you own research if you want a dictionary or encyclo answer.
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    They just can't stand getting info that they don't want to hear.

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