deca and tren?

**roidsssssss** · 10-09-2011, 11:02 PM

Im a rookie...first time use. Is decade and Tren a good stack. Or do.I need something else.

**TheClinch** · 10-09-2011, 11:14 PM

BAD IDEA! Stop.

What are your stats?

**roidsssssss** · 10-10-2011, 12:30 AM

I have not yet started. Just got my supply. I go to the gym mon thru fri and rest sat and sun. I have been going to the gym for 3 years and have notice a good change in my body. I want to bulk up but not look like incredible hulk. I have a friend that's is big and he recommend taking deca and Tren ......why is it bad..

**ata1979** · 10-10-2011, 12:39 AM

If you do deca and tren on your first cycle you will almost definately screw yourself up long-term.

How old are u?

**Lemonada8** · 10-10-2011, 02:22 AM

Deca and tren are not a good combo for anyone, ESP a noob at gear. Don't listen to that guy on aas use, he obviously doesn't recognize the difference.

**TheClinch** · 10-10-2011, 09:57 AM

What are your stats?
Height
Weight
Age
Bf%

**roidsssssss** · 10-10-2011, 10:02 AM

I am 32
Weight 180
Hight 5,2
So don't jump into it. What do I take then. I want to bulk up.

**gixxerboy1** · 10-10-2011, 10:05 AM

your 5ft 2 and 180lbs and want to bulk up?

**TheClinch** · 10-10-2011, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by roidsssssss

I am 32
Weight 180
Hight 5,2
So don't jump into it. What do I take then. I want to bulk up.

Test at 400mg/week for 12 weeks.
Followed by PCT.

AAS is a longer road road than I suspect you think. You gotta eat, sleep, and train right to bulk up and maintain your bulk.

More specifically, what are your goals?

**TheClinch** · 10-10-2011, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

your 5ft 2 and 180lbs and want to bulk up?

Yeah he's already a small tank!

**roidsssssss** · 10-10-2011, 10:14 AM

Yeah im short....I love the gym and working out. All I want is to have my upper and bottom bulk. Not heman but noticeable. I have spent lots of money buying protein..whey..glue..just a waste of time. All water retention. I want muscles.

**TheClinch** · 10-10-2011, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by roidsssssss

Yeah im short....I love the gym and working out. All I want is to have my upper and bottom bulk. Not heman but noticeable. I have spent lots of money buying protein..whey..glue..just a waste of time. All water retention. I want muscles.

Yeah you should lay off the glue...lol

**TheClinch** · 10-10-2011, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by roidsssssss

Yeah im short....I love the gym and working out. All I want is to have my upper and bottom bulk. Not heman but noticeable. I have spent lots of money buying protein..whey..glue..just a waste of time. All water retention. I want muscles.

Try posting up your diet in the diet section and let those guys assists you with that. Its equally, if not more, important than AAS usage.

Do you know what A.I. and SERM are?

**roidsssssss** · 10-10-2011, 10:26 AM

You got me there. Im learning as I go.

**hankdiesel** · 10-10-2011, 10:55 AM

what is you body fat% approximately? 180lbs at 5'2" is huge

**TheClinch** · 10-10-2011, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by roidsssssss

You got me there. Im learning as I go.

Don't learn as you "go". Take a step back, read the educational threads and learn before you go. After reading them, then ask any questions you have and we'll take it from there.