Test E/Deca or Test E/Dbol

**eljay** · 12-08-2011, 09:51 PM

Hi Guys,

Planning a bulk cycle involving either:

week 1-12: 600mg test e
week 1-4: 30mg dbol

or.....

week 1-12: 600mg test e
week 1-10 500 mg deca

Which would be a better cycle for a solid bulk cycle?

**eljay** · 12-09-2011, 08:24 PM

94 views and no one posted anything?

**dooie** · 12-10-2011, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by eljay

94 views and no one posted anything?

95 and still nothing ha

Jks..

What r ur stats, how many cycles have u done?

**scorpion62** · 12-10-2011, 02:39 PM

I take it eljay this is your first cycle I was at your profile but you didnt have any cycle history go with your first option,I take it you have your diet in check have you sorted your PCT?

**gearbox** · 12-10-2011, 02:43 PM

I would run test only or the first option..have pct ready and an ai before u start cycle.

**ijbickerdike** · 12-10-2011, 02:46 PM

If its your first cycle I would just go with test, you can front load the d bol for 4 weeks. I'd stick with one compound to start with to see how you handle it. Id also plan your pct first, if you have it planned out would be nice to post it up.

**gixxerboy1** · 12-10-2011, 02:52 PM

with out stats i'm not saying which is better for you. But since you been here over a year 2 this may not be your first cycle

But cycle 2 is a better bulk cycle imo

**eljay** · 12-10-2011, 11:51 PM

Hey guys,

This will be my third cycle. I was going to start it months ago although some things came up.
Stats:

6'0
210lbs
not sure about bodyfat im presuming around 12-13%
diet is in check

My pct will be Nolva and clomid and I will be running aromasin throughout the cycle.

Are the amounts of test and deca ok?

Cheers fellas

**gearbox** · 12-11-2011, 12:18 AM

yes the amount of test deca is fine...I highly doubt you will but if you experience deca dick lower it a little bit..but 100mg under test is good.. I have heard of same ratio and even more deca then test with no problems but then again we all are different

**Knockout_Power** · 12-11-2011, 12:48 AM

there is no magical "ratio" of how much 19nor to test before you get shutdown. Some guys its minimal amounts, and some never experience it even running it alone (which is just stupid IMO)

As far as your doses, more is not better. A first cycle need not be any more than straight test. 4-500/wk is tons and you will see great gains if your diet, training and rest are spot on. Adding more compounds right off the bat is not a good idea. You need to see how your body reacts to cycling. If you run more than test and you have some adverse reaction, which compound do you remove? If you run a successful test cycle, next time you can either run just test again (same amount or a bit higher) or add in a 2nd compound and if that goes well you know how a good understanding of what you body does which each compound

**eljay** · 12-11-2011, 04:47 AM

ok well at the moment i am banking on running:

week 1-12: 600mg test e
week 1-10 500 mg deca

Would it be beneficial to throw in some dbol in there or would that be sufficient?

**ijbickerdike** · 12-11-2011, 05:13 AM

You can throw in dbol to kick start gains yes

**gearbox** · 12-11-2011, 10:19 AM

Agreed. Take dbol at 20-30 mg for 1-4.wks

**dooie** · 12-11-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

Agreed. Take dbol at 20-30 mg for 1-4.wks

Don't add DBOL two compounds for first cycle is more than enough! (probably too much already)

**dooie** · 12-11-2011, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by dooie

Don't add DBOL two compounds for first cycle is more than enough! (probably too much already)

Oops didn't see you've done a few cycles!! What did your other cycles look like?

**Charlie6** · 12-11-2011, 07:05 PM

Personally I keep my deca higher than my test. If you have all 3, take dbol for the first 6 weeks while the deca ramps up. Or frontload test/deca. Or frontload test/deca and STILL take dbol.

Do you have AIs on hand?

**eljay** · 12-11-2011, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie6

Personally I keep my deca higher than my test. If you have all 3, take dbol for the first 6 weeks while the deca ramps up. Or frontload test/deca. Or frontload test/deca and STILL take dbol.

Do you have AIs on hand?

Ok so I am thinking of running dbol to kickstart the cycle too.
I will be running aromasin throughout the cycle and thinking of running hcg although in aus its quite hard to possess.

**Knockout_Power** · 12-11-2011, 08:30 PM

can we get a quick overview of previous cycling?

**eljay** · 12-11-2011, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

can we get a quick overview of previous cycling?

i have done 2 previous cycles of test e @ 500mg

**eljay** · 12-11-2011, 11:54 PM

fvck off you shit unit

**gearbox** · 12-12-2011, 12:12 AM

Anyways u can kick start dbol if u want. Good luck and keep us updated

**Knockout_Power** · 12-12-2011, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by eljay

i have done 2 previous cycles of test e @ 500mg

good starting cycles, you sure you want to kick with dbol when you already have Deca in there? Adding the Deca this time around will already yeild a bit more gains and the build up for the first couple weeks is safer than almost instant strength increase in the first week which can cause injury.

Either way, make a log, keep us posted, always good to see others results

**eljay** · 12-12-2011, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

good starting cycles, you sure you want to kick with dbol when you already have Deca in there? Adding the Deca this time around will already yeild a bit more gains and the build up for the first couple weeks is safer than almost instant strength increase in the first week which can cause injury.

Either way, make a log, keep us posted, always good to see others results

i think i may add in the dbol but i will definitely keep a log for everyone. cheers for the advice fellas appreciate it!

**The Titan99** · 12-12-2011, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by eljay

ok well at the moment i am banking on running:

week 1-12: 600mg test e
week 1-10 500 mg deca

Would it be beneficial to throw in some dbol in there or would that be sufficient?

I started this almost this exact cycle today, only I'm using test prop, NPP and dbol .

**eljay** · 12-12-2011, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

I I started this almost this exact cycle today, only I'm using test prop, NPP and dbol.

ah really. how were results when you ran it?

**The Titan99** · 12-12-2011, 04:11 AM

No, I just started it today, but I've run test and deca many times with awesome results.

**gearbox** · 12-12-2011, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

No, I just started it today, but I've run test and deca many times with awesome results.

What doses do u run test deca at? Do u ever kick start with dbol

**The Titan99** · 12-12-2011, 09:53 AM

I'm actually doing an 8 week blast cycle. 700 mg test prop/250 mg Sustanon /700 mg NPP/50 mg Proviron ed 50 mg dbol ed for week 1-4. After that I'm going to bridge with 250 mg Sustanon for 2 weeks, then do 8 weeks of trestalone Acetate (Ment) at 700 mg a week. Might do some Anavar at 75 mg ed on that second 8 weeks depending on how I look after the first 8.