can you have side effects on placebo ?

**HellRiserPL** · 12-18-2011, 03:36 PM

I have some stuff that i think is fake , yet it seem to have all the side effects and normal effects as well . sides : insomnia little acne grease skin etc. normal effects : libido UP , energy UP good pump in gym . I can PM details about what it is ( brand , name, ETC.) to any pro that want's to help me out.
Thank you.

**Knockout_Power** · 12-18-2011, 03:41 PM

chances are, if you feel all those sides, then its probably real...

**gixxerboy1** · 12-18-2011, 03:43 PM

what chemical is it and what dose are you taking. Why do you think its fake

**HellRiserPL** · 12-18-2011, 03:46 PM

well if you look up on top of that page you will know what im talking about.

**Knockout_Power** · 12-18-2011, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by HellRiserPL

well if you look up on top of that page you will know what im talking about.

if you are refering to whats in those ads, this conversation is effectively over with =)... good luck with your "gains"

**slfmade** · 12-18-2011, 03:51 PM

You can have side effects on a placebo the same way you can have gains on a placebo!

**HellRiserPL** · 12-18-2011, 03:53 PM

yeah that's what i men't lol.... i'm not using it my friend is, i was the one that got it but i knew it's ass grass lol, anyway my bud said he's gonna try it and he has for two weeks now or so and he keeps telling me oh man this stuff is for real and i keep telling him that it's not. It's just prop ably fact that he's been dieting for a month and a half now and his body is naturally reacting to the diet and training, but he don't listen so i came here to prove to him his high ...

Well thx for proofing me right

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**Knockout_Power** · 12-18-2011, 04:02 PM

it will be even funnier when he actually realizes that he wasn't taking real gear, and if he see's results, he will finally see that gear is not a necessity to reach your goals and he wasted a bunch of money

**slfmade** · 12-18-2011, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by HellRiserPL

yeah that's what i men't lol.... i'm not using it my friend is, i was the one that got it but i knew it's ass grass lol, anyway my bud said he's gonna try it and he has for two weeks now or so and he keeps telling me oh man this stuff is for real and i keep telling him that it's not. It's just prop ably fact that he's been dieting for a month and a half now and his body is naturally reacting to the diet and training, but he don't listen so i came here to prove to him his high ...

Well thx for proofing me right

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Hummm...

**HellRiserPL** · 12-18-2011, 04:06 PM

i told him that he should train a year or two and reach natural potential and then cycle, specially that he never did weight lifting and his body is reacting realy good to just plain good diet and training, but he's older than me hence smarter i guess, idk he don't really like to take advice from younger i guess.

**Knockout_Power** · 12-18-2011, 04:10 PM

so he started taking what he thought was anabolics and then started training?

right there is the #1 reason why anabolics get a bad image

**gearbox** · 12-18-2011, 04:15 PM

slfmade- have we not gotten a lot of "I am posting for my buddy, not me" "I have a friend who needs help"

**slfmade** · 12-18-2011, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

slfmade- have we not gotten a lot of "I am posting for my buddy, not me" "I have a friend who needs help"

Yep. Just 2 weeks ago and he was asking for source checks.

**gearbox** · 12-18-2011, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by slfmade

Yep. Just 2 weeks ago and he was asking for source checks.

they were for his buddy though not him...haha

**slfmade** · 12-18-2011, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

they were for his buddy though not him...haha

Well that explains it then.

**dec11** · 12-18-2011, 04:58 PM

no, of course you cant have physical sides on a placebo, think about it

**gearbox** · 12-18-2011, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

no, of course you cant have physical sides on a placebo, think about it

agree..the brain can trick you into being sick (feeling sick) but growing muscles from a placebo....nope... you will get standard gains from your diet and routine

**slfmade** · 12-18-2011, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by slfmade

You can have side effects on a placebo the same way you can have gains on a placebo!

That's what I was getting at in this ^^^^ post. I was being facetious!

**HellRiserPL** · 12-18-2011, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

agree..the brain can trick you into being sick (feeling sick) but growing muscles from a placebo....nope... you will get standard gains from your diet and routine

Yeah that's what i told him because he started his diet and all the medium weight lifting like a month and a half ago now so his body would naturally start reacting to training/diet and build a little mass, i had very good gains when i first started to diet and train around 5 yrs ago and i wasn't doing any cycles at a time.

@slfmade sorry if i hurt your feelings with this post , Originally Posted by slfmade : Yep. Just 2 weeks ago and he was asking for source checks. yeah and show me a new member who didn't ask about them... btw im good now not thx to you

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Other members thank you for your help and educated opinion .

**slfmade** · 12-18-2011, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by HellRiserPL

Yeah that's what i told him because he started his diet and all the medium weight lifting like a month and a half ago now so his body would naturally start reacting to training/diet and build a little mass, i had very good gains when i first started to diet and train around 5 yrs ago and i wasn't doing any cycles at a time.

@slfmade sorry if i hurt your feelings with this post , Originally Posted by slfmade : Yep. Just 2 weeks ago and he was asking for source checks. yeah and show me a new member who didn't ask about them... btw im good now not thx to you

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Other members thank you for your help and educated opinion .

Me...

**HellRiserPL** · 12-18-2011, 07:51 PM

ah its cool man i'm just joking, Santa will come over this year

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To me every opinion matters .

**Ashop** · 12-19-2011, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

chances are, if you feel all those sides, then its probably real...

My guess as well. With a true placebo you wouldnt feel or see anything.

**guitario** · 12-19-2011, 04:51 PM

You won't feel any sides from a placebo unless you expect certain sides. If you had no idea about gyno for example, then your body won't know to expect it.