"substitute" anavar for dianabol?

**Test pilot** · 12-26-2011, 05:46 PM

So i started a cycle with frontloading 20mg dianabol daily. I planned to run it for 4 weeks, but I'm having ridiculous headaches. I've only been on the dianabol for 5 days. BP is normal, I'm pushing water like crazy (2 gallons a day), no alcohol, cut back on caffeine almost entirely. Aspirin and ibuprofen don't work on the headaches, I've had to resort to Vicodin.
so i would just stop and wait for the rest of my cycle to kick in (sustenon and tren ) but I REALLY like the way I feel on the dbol , except the headaches. I'm already seeing results in the gym, I just hate to let it go.
I happen to also have some anavar that a buddy kicked me down - would that give me similar "feel-good" effects, just without the weight gain?
Does anyone have any good advice on the headaches? I've read several posts that they go away after a week, is that a pretty safe bet?
stats: 29, 6ft 212lbs. 23%bf (too high, I know, but I cut 2% before starting gear to make sure diet was in line). Gym rat off and on for 10 years, but I'm definitely a hobbyist more than a competitor. This is my 2nd cycle, I'm taking arimidex .5md eod and have hcg and nolva for pct
thanks!

**Maulx** · 12-26-2011, 05:53 PM

They will most likely go away. But anavar is a good drug if you can run enough although expensive. I'd suggest stick with the dbol for another week and they should sort themselves out. Tren on a second cycle is alittle overboard though, You may want to rethink that before your too far along.

**Ashop** · 12-26-2011, 06:25 PM

ANAVAR is rather mild and its best effects are only seen in longer duration cycles. I say a minimum of 8 weeks.
If the DBOL is giving you that much trouble I would stop it immediately.

**Test pilot** · 12-27-2011, 01:36 PM

Thanks for the help - I'm sticking with the dbol a little longer. The headache is better so far today.

**sizzlechest** · 12-27-2011, 03:02 PM

This could happen. Oral Winny gives me headaches for the first 7-10 days as well. You can try and tough it out for few days to see if it goes away or just stop. As Far as VAR goes good results come from 80-100mg a day. Var might be better for you with a high BF. You didn not mention what else you are taking in the stack!!
By the way Cutting out Caffeine can cause headaches!!! How much caffeine were you taking before? Excerdrin might help in that case. If it continues you should see a doc for sure.

**Test pilot** · 12-28-2011, 09:13 AM

Sorry, i thought i posted the rest:
14 weeks of sustanon @ 250/wk
14 weeks of tren ace/enth blend @ 200/wk
Im currently running the dbol at 20mg ed but its awesome so if i can get the headaches under control i may bump that to 40.
.5mg arimidex eod
I also have eq that a buddy gave me - i havent even checked the dose because i wasnt planning on using it, but you know how it goes... i havent started that but im kinda thinking about it. Since im overweight im definitely interested in any cutting compounds, i just dont know if i will see any added benefit from a lowish dose of eq.

The caffeine doesnt seem to be the issue because adding caffeine back hasnt stopped the headaches. I feel like it might be almost "withdrawl" from the dbol since the headache goes away for a while after i take my pill in the morning, but comes back in the afternoon.
Im on day 7 today. Ill probably give it up if they arent gone by this weekend...

**Sicko** · 12-28-2011, 09:20 AM

IMO I wouldnt start adding or changing your cycle all around that is part of the reason it is recommended to take it slow when doing your cycles. That way you can isolate the drug that is giving you grief. If you add several new ones in one cycle, how will you know which one is the culprit?

**Test pilot** · 12-28-2011, 09:56 AM

Good call, ill leave it as is

**Test pilot** · 12-28-2011, 09:57 AM

Sorry, i thought i posted the rest:
14 weeks of sustanon @ 250/wk
14 weeks of tren ace/enth blend @ 200/wk
Im currently running the dbol at 20mg ed but its awesome so if i can get the headaches under control i may bump that to 40.
.5mg arimidex eod
I also have eq that a buddy gave me - i havent even checked the dose because i wasnt planning on using it, but you know how it goes... i havent started that but im kinda thinking about it. Since im overweight im definitely interested in any cutting compounds, i just dont know if i will see any added benefit from a lowish dose of eq.

The caffeine doesnt seem to be the issue because adding caffeine back hasnt stopped the headaches. I feel like it might be almost "withdrawl" from the dbol since the headache goes away for a while after i take my pill in the morning, but comes back in the afternoon.
Im on day 7 today. Ill probably give it up if they arent gone by this weekend...